AWE Exhaust

crbalch · 03-24-2016, 11:06 AM

Hey all,

I have the AWE Exhaust with Midpipe, and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing drone. I only experience it when the car is still relatively cold, from about 2.5-3k in Sport mode.

I know their technology is supposed to remove all traces of drone, but I am still getting it in that RPM range.

Anyone else getting this?

I will post a video later...my phone can't pick up the audio good enough unfortunately.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-24-2016, 03:45 PM

Shouldnt be getting a drone

Waiting for the vid

BentZero · 03-24-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crbalch

Hey all,

I have the AWE Exhaust with Midpipe, and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing drone. I only experience it when the car is still relatively cold, from about 2.5-3k in Sport mode.

I know their technology is supposed to remove all traces of drone, but I am still getting it in that RPM range.

Anyone else getting this?

I will post a video later...my phone can't pick up the audio good enough unfortunately.

Did you code out ASD? I've heard of people getting drone when the exhaust is still pretty new. Most have reported that it goes away after a couple or few hundred miles.

AK.Alexx · 03-25-2016, 03:04 AM

Will is reduce drone if you code out ASD?

crbalch · 03-25-2016, 07:05 AM

I've coded out ASD to F006 like the threads have suggested.

Here is a link to the video of the interior. I used my phone so quality is garbage, will try to get a better video. 4 seconds -10 seconds you can hear it if you have good headphones or speakers.

BentZero · 03-25-2016, 08:09 AM

Using the crappy speakers on my phone and I don't hear it. I'll listen again later with my good headphones. How many miles on the exhaust?

crbalch · 03-25-2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BentZero

Using the crappy speakers on my phone and I don't hear it. I'll listen again later with my good headphones. How many miles on the exhaust?

Just checked and I'm actually only at about 325 miles on it...thought I had more to be honest haha

Mywifes335 · 03-25-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by crbalch

Just checked and I'm actually only at about 325 miles on it...thought I had more to be honest haha

It's that buzzing vibration through the speakers that indicates drone right?

crbalch · 03-25-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

It's that buzzing vibration through the speakers that indicates drone right?

Yep...and if you listen through good speakers the deep bass note as well.

BentZero · 03-25-2016, 02:30 PM

Just listened to this with my headphones connected to a headphone amp. That sounds like it can be pretty annoying. I hope it goes away because this is the exhaust that I've decided on. :/

Mywifes335 · 03-25-2016, 02:35 PM

It won't go away. I'm pretty disappointed since AWE is a good name and claims to have 180 technology to cancel out resonance.

As your exhaust wears over time, any sound packing will get less voluminous and more dense...leaving more space for air and sound to bounce around.

Which system is it? It's a full body transverse muffler in back right?

No amount of coding will get rid of drone. It actual sound, not synthesized sound.

m235piloti · 03-25-2016, 02:37 PM

I've been lurking on this forum for over a year since I got my car. I was probably one of the first 5 people to get the complete AWE exhaust (muffler and midpipe). I was aware of those guys through the Porsche world, and was pleased to hear when they came out with an exhaust for the 235, so I had my installer order it. When it arrived it looked beautiful. That's where the fun ended. I'm not going to go into the nightmare that the install turned out to be, as that is not the point of this thread. Let's talk drone. I've had many modified cars over the years, and they ALL had exhausts put on them. From 5.0's with Flowmasters, to Dinan M3's, 911's, and my last was a C63 with long tubes with no resonators and no cat's. The reason I mention this is so that you know that this is not my first rodeo. The AWE exhaust droned like a beast from 2600 - 3300rpm. It was horrible. The first day my wife got in the car with the new exhaust, she looked at me like I was nuts. Her comment was something similar to "you actually like that??". Per AWE suggestion, first step was to remove midpipe and put the stock back on. No luck. Drone was just as bad. It was at this point I decided to put an ER catless downpipe on the car. I figured I'd make power, and maybe it would help with the drone. Once again, no luck. Drone was horrendous. AWE told my installer that maybe I was a bit too old to appreciate the exhaust tone. I got a chuckle out of that. In the end, I removed the muffler, and put the stock exhaust back on. My installer refunded some of my money, but after the time and effort involved, it was a hefty loss. Throughout all of this, I've been amazed by the posts from people who say the have the exhaust, and it doesn't drone. I find it tough to believe. I'm generally not someone who posts on forums, but when I saw this, I had to chime in. BTW, if anyone is interested, that muffler is in my garage, in a box. It has about3k miles on it. If you want to experiment with it, first $500 takes it. I paid close to $1750 for the setup. Lol

Mywifes335 · 03-25-2016, 02:50 PM

Damn man.... That sounds like a horror story for $1750....

Truthfully, I was going to get an aftermarket system but I just didn't understand how any manufacturer could get a good Inline 6 sound out of a turbo car.

So instead of dropping $1k - $4k on a system, I started experimenting with the stock system.

Honestly, this has been the best sounding turbo BMW I've had so far. Now one N54, two N55s and one N20.

No tooting my own horn, as I HATE drone. Current setup is ER downpipe, no midpipe resonator, and a modified stock rear muffler (backbox). More sound, shotgun pops and crackles and No drone.

BentZero · 03-27-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Damn man.... That sounds like a horror story for $1750....

Truthfully, I was going to get an aftermarket system but I just didn't understand how any manufacturer could get a good Inline 6 sound out of a turbo car.

So instead of dropping $1k - $4k on a system, I started experimenting with the stock system.

Honestly, this has been the best sounding turbo BMW I've had so far. Now one N54, two N55s and one N20.

No tooting my own horn, as I HATE drone. Current setup is ER downpipe, no midpipe resonator, and a modified stock rear muffler (backbox). More sound, shotgun pops and crackles and No drone.

I'm sorry, but what's a back box?

Mywifes335 · 03-27-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BentZero

I'm sorry, but what's a back box?

The muffler.

BentZero · 03-27-2016, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentZero

I'm sorry, but what's a back box?

The muffler.

Ah, okay. Did you gut one of the chambers?

Mywifes335 · 03-27-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BentZero

Ah, okay. Did you gut one of the chambers?

Gut two.

Here's the whole thread and vids too:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...1017586&page=5

BentZero · 03-27-2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Gut two.

Here's the whole thread and vids too:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...1017586&page=5

Ah, good read. I had actually thought about doing a muffler delete before buying an exhaust, but then decided that I'd just get the AWE. Now this thread has me second guessing that decision. Others have said that there's no drone though, so idk. :/

I like what you did, but I'd probably stick purely with the muffler modifications and leave the stock DP and resonator. I figure I can do those items one at a time at a later date.

Do you think that I would need the bypass to the driver's side tip as well or would the muffler modifications be enough? I just want something deeper and louder than stock.

M2ALEX · 03-28-2016, 02:52 AM

Have you done any other modifications to your car? Downpipes? Cat deletes?

crbalch · 03-28-2016, 07:44 AM

For the record, I am finding that it only drones when the car is cold and for the first 3 miles or so. However, my commute is only about 4 miles so I notice it more. Is this normal?

BentZero · 03-28-2016, 10:53 AM

Hmm, that is acceptable to me.

Mywifes335 · 03-28-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BentZero

Ah, good read. I had actually thought about doing a muffler delete before buying an exhaust, but then decided that I'd just get the AWE. Now this thread has me second guessing that decision. Others have said that there's no drone though, so idk. :/

I like what you did, but I'd probably stick purely with the muffler modifications and leave the stock DP and resonator. I figure I can do those items one at a time at a later date.

Do you think that I would need the bypass to the driver's side tip as well or would the muffler modifications be enough? I just want something deeper and louder than stock.

No, don't think you'll need that bypass. Thanks for the kudos! Appreciate it.

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crbalch The Schwab 473 Rep 1,605 Posts Drives: 2020 AW M340xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (2) Garage List 2017 BMW X1 [0.00] 2016 BMW M235xi [0.00]	I've coded out ASD to F006 like the threads have suggested. Here is a link to the video of the interior. I used my phone so quality is garbage, will try to get a better video. 4 seconds -10 seconds you can hear it if you have good headphones or speakers.
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BentZero Lieutenant Colonel 625 Rep 1,753 Posts Drives: 6MT Mineral White M235i Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (2)	Using the crappy speakers on my phone and I don't hear it. I'll listen again later with my good headphones. How many miles on the exhaust?
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Mywifes335 Major 1631 Rep 1,422 Posts Drives: 2014 FBO M235i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	It won't go away. I'm pretty disappointed since AWE is a good name and claims to have 180 technology to cancel out resonance. As your exhaust wears over time, any sound packing will get less voluminous and more dense...leaving more space for air and sound to bounce around. Which system is it? It's a full body transverse muffler in back right? No amount of coding will get rid of drone. It actual sound, not synthesized sound.
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m235piloti Registered 2 Rep 2 Posts Drives: EB m235i Join Date: May 2015 Location: Gainesville, GA iTrader: (0)	I've been lurking on this forum for over a year since I got my car. I was probably one of the first 5 people to get the complete AWE exhaust (muffler and midpipe). I was aware of those guys through the Porsche world, and was pleased to hear when they came out with an exhaust for the 235, so I had my installer order it. When it arrived it looked beautiful. That's where the fun ended. I'm not going to go into the nightmare that the install turned out to be, as that is not the point of this thread. Let's talk drone. I've had many modified cars over the years, and they ALL had exhausts put on them. From 5.0's with Flowmasters, to Dinan M3's, 911's, and my last was a C63 with long tubes with no resonators and no cat's. The reason I mention this is so that you know that this is not my first rodeo. The AWE exhaust droned like a beast from 2600 - 3300rpm. It was horrible. The first day my wife got in the car with the new exhaust, she looked at me like I was nuts. Her comment was something similar to "you actually like that??". Per AWE suggestion, first step was to remove midpipe and put the stock back on. No luck. Drone was just as bad. It was at this point I decided to put an ER catless downpipe on the car. I figured I'd make power, and maybe it would help with the drone. Once again, no luck. Drone was horrendous. AWE told my installer that maybe I was a bit too old to appreciate the exhaust tone. I got a chuckle out of that. In the end, I removed the muffler, and put the stock exhaust back on. My installer refunded some of my money, but after the time and effort involved, it was a hefty loss. Throughout all of this, I've been amazed by the posts from people who say the have the exhaust, and it doesn't drone. I find it tough to believe. I'm generally not someone who posts on forums, but when I saw this, I had to chime in. BTW, if anyone is interested, that muffler is in my garage, in a box. It has about3k miles on it. If you want to experiment with it, first $500 takes it. I paid close to $1750 for the setup. Lol
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Mywifes335 Major 1631 Rep 1,422 Posts Drives: 2014 FBO M235i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Damn man.... That sounds like a horror story for $1750.... Truthfully, I was going to get an aftermarket system but I just didn't understand how any manufacturer could get a good Inline 6 sound out of a turbo car. So instead of dropping $1k - $4k on a system, I started experimenting with the stock system. Honestly, this has been the best sounding turbo BMW I've had so far. Now one N54, two N55s and one N20. No tooting my own horn, as I HATE drone. Current setup is ER downpipe, no midpipe resonator, and a modified stock rear muffler (backbox). More sound, shotgun pops and crackles and No drone.
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