[W///]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

Fair enough, I meant well optioned in terms of what's general available on 2/3 series cars. Pretty much anything outside of CCB and driver's assistance, i.e., the stuff most people end up getting if not on a too tight of a budget.

I wonder if CCB will even be an option? I didn't even consider it.

Just wanted to make sure that was clear
I've read so many times people saying that the M4 is a $90k car. Yea sure, if you loaded up literally every option you could, but most cars won't be like that

We have no idea about CCB on the M2. I would think it should work because we've seen mules with M3/4 wheels and regular brakes.

Not that I'd ever buy CCB, but I'd love to see someone order a white M2 with literally 0 options apart from CCB

[dmboone25]

Right between the M235 and an M3 gets you in the 53k range, although if you compare coupes to coupes, (M235 and M4) you're closer to 55k.

I'm hoping for the former, expecting the latter.

To those wondering about leasing, the M cars typically have lower residuals and higher money factors. This car will be expensive to lease in my opinion.

EDIT - I also think that the majority of M2s will be on the lower end of the "options checked" spectrum. Remember, the options offered by BMW on the 1M were kept artificially low on purpose. Even though the M2 won't be a limited run car like the 1M, BMW can further distinguish the M2 from the m3/4/5/6 by keeping the available options limited.

[MikeASU09]

Base MSRP will be $53,900.

[Delnari]

So far it looks like over 70% of us M2 fans don't want to pay over $60K for optioned M2. Hey BMW! Are you reading this?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Delnari

So far it looks like over 70% of us M2 fans don't want to pay over $60K for optioned M2. Hey BMW! Are you reading this?

I think it really depends on how BMW plans to position the car. Is it a smaller M4 ? Or is it the entry level, value M ?

Standard options and MSRP are going to tell us a lot about where BMW sees this car fitting in.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I think it really depends on how BMW plans to position the car. Is it a smaller M4 ? Or is it the entry level, value M ?

Standard options and MSRP are going to tell us a lot about where BMW sees this car fitting in.

True. I wrote a post some time back echoing the same thing. It's all about positioning.

[W///]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I think it really depends on how BMW plans to position the car. Is it a smaller M4 ? Or is it the entry level, value M ?

Standard options and MSRP are going to tell us a lot about where BMW sees this car fitting in.

I'd say forget the standard options (well apart from things like AC and automatic wipers ) and make the base price as low as humanly possible. I'd rather save $2k and not have standard NAV for example

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by W///

I'd say forget the standard options (well apart from things like AC and automatic wipers ) and make the base price as low as humanly possible. I'd rather save $2k and not have standard NAV for example

Agreed - in fact if BMW were to go about this in a manner similar to the approached used for the 1M, I would be happy.

Just offer us more exterior colors and you have a big winner on your hands.

[Killramos]

I think if people want to see this car fully loaded for less than 60 k as 75% of this poll has indicated then I guess you are hoping that BMW does not offer any options for the car...

My almost loaded M235i was 57 grand not including the M LSD i put in, that makes it 60500.

So basically everyone on here wants the M2 to cost less than the M235i.

Not realistic. Maybe consider used cars...

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by Killramos

I think if people want to see this car fully loaded for less than 60 k as 75% of this poll has indicated then I guess you are hoping that BMW does not offer any options for the car...

My almost loaded M235i was 57 grand not including the M LSD i put in, that makes it 60500.

So basically everyone on here wants the M2 to cost less than the M235i.

Not realistic. Maybe consider used cars...

Agreed. Although I expect to be able land an M2 with extended leather, HK sound, 6 spd, and 19" wheels for a little bit under 60k WITH the ED discount. Fully optioned? My guess is closer to 70.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Killramos

I think if people want to see this car fully loaded for less than 60 k as 75% of this poll has indicated then I guess you are hoping that BMW does not offer any options for the car...

My almost loaded M235i was 57 grand not including the M LSD i put in, that makes it 60500.

So basically everyone on here wants the M2 to cost less than the M235i.

Not realistic. Maybe consider used cars...

Yea, you definitely aren't getting a fully loaded one for under $60k. A fully loaded M235i with literally every option checked (not M Perf stuff) costs $54k. Then you add M-DCT which will most likely not free and there's another $3k.

However, I think a huge majority of people here seem to be aiming for either a mildly optioned car, or in my case, a stripper.

[Killramos]

Absolutely. I dont think anyone read the poll...

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by W///

Yea, you definitely aren't getting a fully loaded one for under $60k. A fully loaded M235i with literally every option checked (not M Perf stuff) costs $54k. Then you add M-DCT which will most likely not free and there's another $3k.

However, I think a huge majority of people here seem to be aiming for either a mildly optioned car, or in my case, a stripper.

Originally Posted by Killramos

I think if people want to see this car fully loaded for less than 60 k as 75% of this poll has indicated then I guess you are hoping that BMW does not offer any options for the car...

My almost loaded M235i was 57 grand not including the M LSD i put in, that makes it 60500.

So basically everyone on here wants the M2 to cost less than the M235i.

Not realistic. Maybe consider used cars...

We've got to remember that the M2 may not be a monster jump in terms of hardware over the M235i. But when you're aiming for the type of car the M2 is sought to be, little details can make a big difference. We're not talking 435i with M package vs. an M4, here.

[gaijin]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

We're not talking 435i with M package vs. an M4, here.

This I agree with. Curious how BMW will roll-out this model, keeping it in the right price point and still keeping it viable without conflict with its other premium models.

[Killramos]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

We've got to remember that the M2 may not be a monster jump in terms of hardware over the M235i. But when you're aiming for the type of car the M2 is sought to be, little details can make a big difference. We're not talking 435i with M package vs. an M4, here.

If there isn't a significant jump its not worth making the Car. M235i is very good. This car has to be sensational in order to find the niche market it is targeting.

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by MikeASU09

Base MSRP will be $53,900.

Bamm!

Im with tou on this one

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by Killramos

If there isn't a significant jump its not worth making the Car. M235i is very good. This car has to be sensational in order to find the niche market it is targeting.

That's what I'm saying though, I think a significant jump could be made without making significant changes (economically).

[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

We've got to remember that the M2 may not be a monster jump in terms of hardware over the M235i. But when you're aiming for the type of car the M2 is sought to be, little details can make a big difference. We're not talking 435i with M package vs. an M4, here.

Agreed, and it most likely won't be (similar engine, potentially no CF roof, limited color choices like the 1M) 435i vs M4. However, when it comes to options, BMW, as well as pretty much every other German mfg will make you pay for them.

I've always said that the car should start in the low 50s, which I think is perfectly reasonable. But I have no doubt that by the time you add M-DCT, Nav, Cold weather pack, HK, potentially LED, lane departure, Premium Pack, metallic paint... you will be well over $10k worth of options.

What KillRamos and I are saying, don't expect to see a fully loaded car in the 50s (key word fully loaded). In terms of options, I think you can pretty easily compare between all the models and deduce what the car will cost in the end.

[UpNcOmINg!]

Agreed.
I think we will only see the basics specced on this car;
Xenons
HiFi Sound
Rear PDC
Auto Headlights and Rain sensors
M Drive (as on ///M3 etc)
Anti-Dazzle Mirrors
Leather (I reckon will be standard, although I hope for a Sentec (cloth/Alcantara option)
Climate Control (although I don't think the microfilter AC exists anymore,phased out with e-series)

And that's about it.
Everything else we will have to spec.
So I would expect also around the $51,000-$53,000.00 mark for a stock car

Fully loaded, I would say around $61-62,000.00

[Groundpilot]

I predict this car fully loaded will be over $68K out the door.
For what? Tuned n55 engine and only 100pounds lighter than m3/m4?
As a car enthusiast who buys these type of cars mostly for performance, i think there are other cheaper and better options these days. Thanks god for the competition.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

I predict this car fully loaded will be over $68K out the door.
For what? Tuned n55 engine and only 100pounds lighter than m3/m4?
As a car enthusiast who buys these type of cars mostly for performance, i think there are other cheaper and better options these days. Thanks god for the competition.

You have to somewhat compare apples to apples though. That same fully loaded M3/4 would be $80k. Hell, $90k if you include CCB.

Not saying that competition like the Mustang moves the game up a bit for sure, but I think this fully option cars are kinda crazy. I think the discussion would have made way more sense if the poll was about what people were willing to pay as a base price.

[Groundpilot]

The problem with the base price is, you dont get things you really want. For example, after my experience with SMG and now with DCT, i will never go back to MT. So there is one major option that is a must for me and i suspect for many others. There are other must have options for many of us, that will raise that price significantly. In this case, i would just bite the bullit and pay $10k more for m4 with DCT.