10-22-2014, 10:36 AM | #67 |
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If these are the production headlights and tail lights. I love it very clean and progressive looking.
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10-22-2014, 12:33 PM | #69 |
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What a positively awful car!
Then again, I think the 3-series GT is about the ugliest thing BMW has produced in my memory. It looks like someone in Munich thought the Porsche Panamera actually looked good (thereby placing themselves in a worldwide population of exactly 1). |
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10-22-2014, 03:31 PM | #71 | |
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They sell thousands. The current BMW Gran Turismo models exceed their 10% of overall 5er and 3er sales as initially projected with the 3er Gran Turismo proving even popular over the projected 10% especially as it is the only premium d- segment model with a hatch in Europe in the face of declining d segment volume models. A 5dr C-Klasse is also being developed for this reason. A key important factor for Europe is the flexibility of a hatch. Why not continue this in the compact segment? The global sector for further growth lies with the compact segment.
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10-22-2014, 03:41 PM | #72 | |
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Even if there was it would not be offered in the US. The Touring models are more or less eclipsed by the 2er Active and Gran Tourer. As well as increased passenger flexibility, they also over exceptional loading space above a Touring especially the Gran Tourer.
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10-22-2014, 03:56 PM | #73 | |
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And I know the Panamera has been a great seller for them - I see them all over Boston. But I still think it is hideous. And I don't know many people who don't own them who think they are attractive (if you pay that kind of money for a car, you kinda have to drink the kool-aid otherwise you'll kick yourself everytime you see it). And as for a car for every niche, I'll take my M2 without all the gadgets, please. |
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10-22-2014, 04:43 PM | #74 | |
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10-22-2014, 06:30 PM | #75 | |
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The GT models offer little except about 100 lbs more in weight over the much nicer looking equivalent touring models.
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10-23-2014, 08:50 AM | #76 |
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Stupid, just when we thought we had their thinking figured out, they go and mess it up.
2er Active Tourer and 2er Grand Tourer? Why? Should be a sexy 2er GC, but better than the 4er GC which is more of a gran-hatch, you don't have to copy everything Audi does, go your own path BMW, go your own way.
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10-23-2014, 09:32 AM | #77 | |
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As for looks, tourers are very common here, perhaps when you see so many of them they just become average. At least the GT's stand out, and like them or not, I think they've got quite a bit more on road presence that the equivalent tourers. |
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10-23-2014, 10:31 AM | #78 |
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Thanks for the news about the 2 series GC. I've been waiting for this variation to materialize as my 2007 E93 is getting long in the tooth. There was some talk last year, but then deathly silence. Wondering about numbering for it (F24?) and the possible timing? Still no spy shots so thinking will be MY2016. Comments anyone? |
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10-23-2014, 09:41 PM | #79 | |
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Rational arguments aside; I understand these polarizing monstrosities are here to stay.
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10-23-2014, 10:09 PM | #80 | |
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A terrific and well articulated description of auto strategy, tactic and the challenges BMW faces competing in the global market.
Well done...hopefully some of the whiners are just slightly more enlightened after reading this.... Quote:
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What I don't get is why they would give it the name 2er GT and not 1 GT.. Even numbers are for the Gran Coupes or am I wrong? Scott26 could you perhaps explain me why.
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