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The GTS is a fart in the wind if it does not come to North America.
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are the GTS coming to US this time? they would have to increase production by much if you want the US market to receive the GTS..
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If BMW could create a car that was nearly as responsive, light and fast (around a track) as a Cayman S for $60k, I'd be thrilled. |
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The GT4 does it in 7:40 on PSC2 tires Want to bet that the F80 would match that time on the same tires? Not that I have any special love for the F80, but as far as "speed" is concerned it is friggin quick. The GT4 is a million times more pure due to manual, NA, light weight, etc, but that does not translate into a faster lap time. The real question is "can BMW build a car that is as satisfying to drive as a GT4?" |
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GTR laps in just over 7...but much like whatever driverless car eventually starts lapping at a reliable 6.xx... I couldn't be less interested in owning one. |
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BMW imho should position the M2 CSL clearly below the GT4 - at least price wise. If it's possible to deliver something which separates it from a regular M2, by
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BMW's baby is the M3/4, much like Porsche's is the 911. Here's to hoping they build a extreme M4 and it's brought to the States |
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Two completely different companies with very different philosophies
Porsche builds 600 GT3 RS 4.0s and exports it to the US. BMW builds 2000 CSLs and says 'it's too expensive' to certify that engine in the US Porsche keeps NA engines in its GT models because it is -evidently- more pure and the way motorsport engines are supposed to be. It will turbocharge all its run of the mill models because Joe Six Pack does not know any better, but keep it's GT cars NA. If you look at a 911, you have the 911, then the 911S, then the 911S power pack, then the GT3, then the GT3 RS, etc etc etc. 6 levels of one car. BMW builds the M3 and the time they make a 'GTS', which would be the equivalent of a GT3, they don't bring it over here because it's too expensive. Porsche GT clearly enjoys a much higher degree of freedom than BMW M. As I said earlier, if we are very lucky BMW will bring the M4 GTS to the States. Even so, do not expect GT3 numbers. They are capable as they showed in the past, but BMW's vision is 'connected drive' and other BS that has nothing to do with 'the ultimate driving machine'. Porsche refuses to abandon their roots and apparently is even capable of turning a piece of junk Q5 platform into a Macan, a pretty decent SUV. Time will prove one of us wrong, but mark my words. [For the record, I am a massive BMW fan, but I call it as I see it] |
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