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      02-25-2014, 02:40 PM   #639
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WOW! I whole 0.8 seconds slower 0-60 for the 228 6MT, versus auto???
This correct?
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      02-25-2014, 02:41 PM   #640
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Thanks for posting this.

I wonder why the manual 228i 0-60 estimate (6.2/s) is so much greater than the 8-speed auto (5.4/s). Can we blame the gear ratios for this disparity? Perhaps it is a typo...
Beats me, I like the ratios of the manual 228i. And assuming the carrier is the same, it would accept the lsd as well. I've been saying all along the 228i, M sport (why not m228i by the way) would be the hot ticket. Its got a short rear end ratio, and tranny ratios similar to a gm 6 speed manual. Same foes got the 328i m sport. Lighter front end, pointy front grip. That n20 is clearly under rated going by acceleration times. I really think the new 228i m sport can be more closely compared to an e36 m3, only much quicker. With a suspension that is geared towards stiffness and handling (Like the e36 m3) rather than comfort, I really expect the 2er to be a talented car. The only thing that concerns me is that the wheel base and width grew in similar ratios, as compared to overall length. I don't know what implications that has for front end grip and civilized behavior, compared to what many 135i owners felt in terms of under steer and nervous performance. (Not a dig at the 1er, with a couple easy changes, it is truly a performer).

Look at the highway mpg on the m235i, auto compared to stick... why they use such a short od in 6th gear in the stick is beyond me. Follow GMs lead and give the stick an opportunity to get better highway mpg by using a taller od. No reason for 6th to be at least .67 instead of .85.
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the 253m auto weighs 3535lb it's heavier then the old 135i
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      02-25-2014, 03:24 PM   #642
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After reading those data about the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and X series, so admire the peoples that living in US, why BMW's selling prices are so CHEAP over there!!!
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the 253m auto weighs 3535lb it's heavier then the old 135i
damn pig

it just shows how cheap materials affect performance
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      02-25-2014, 09:12 PM   #644
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damn pig

it just shows how cheap materials affect performance
And growing. I like the proportions of the 135i with it's squat stance and short (bmw-like...go figure) overhangs.
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      02-25-2014, 10:08 PM   #645
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You are probably correct

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WOW! I whole 0.8 seconds slower 0-60 for the 228 6MT, versus auto???
This correct?
The 3197 curb weight on a 128i manual is up to 3260 on this 228i manual. HP is up from 230 to 240, but the 0-60 falls short. 6.1 sec on a manual 128i and now 6.2 on this manual 228i. All these numbers seem reasonable enough.

The big difference between the auto and manual 228 must be due to a huge improvement in the auto transmission.

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      02-26-2014, 09:16 AM   #646
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Which weight is correct on the m235i manual?

Im seeing 3297 lb unladen in the comparos all the way up to 3505 lbs in the specs

I want the weight to be as close to my 135i as possible and 3505 is getting on the rotund side.

I also can't fathom giving up my manual gear box, but the numbers are starting to make it incredibly hard to keep it.

Seeing the M performance parts might warrant a trip to my dealer this weekend but there are still a couple of lingering concerns like weight, steering and those damn blue brakes.
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WOW! I whole 0.8 seconds slower 0-60 for the 228 6MT, versus auto???
This correct?
The 3197 curb weight on a 128i manual is up to 3260 on this 228i manual. HP is up from 230 to 240, but the 0-60 falls short. 6.1 sec on a manual 128i and now 6.2 on this manual 228i. All these numbers seem reasonable enough.

The big difference between the auto and manual 228 must be due to a huge improvement in the auto transmission.

Cheers!
Well as another data point, with the lonely 320, the manual and 8-auto 0-60 times are exactly 7.1.
Therefore if BMW goes to lengths to keep a 320 and 328 relatively equal for manual/auto 0-60, why penalize a manual 228 so drastically (0.8s) from its 8-auto?
I guess I'm not directly concerned with what that 0.8s feels like on the street, but more the fact that its been artificially de-tuned when its very capable to match the 8-auto given other vehicle specs we see here. Or maybe this new 6MT is actually a bogus improvement? Or maybe it's a way to phase-out manuals to show a significant performance gap?
However, even the M235 manual/auto times are only off 0.1s! My deductive reasoning leads to, hopefully, a typo. :
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      02-27-2014, 05:02 AM   #648
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Weights more than the m4? lol what
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new review...TMR Motor Sports Test Drive

TMR VERDICT | OVERALL





After numerous laps of Baskerville in the M235i it was clear that this is a lot closer to an M car than BMW would have you believe.

All of the core ingredients are there. Great grip, a talkative chassis, a muscle-bound engine and strong brakes. This is a proper sports car.

Found this review by Google Search....GO BMW M235i
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How do I get THIS interior in my life?

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      03-06-2014, 01:05 PM   #651
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How do I get THIS interior in my life?

You move out of the US
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      03-06-2014, 01:28 PM   #652
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Damn you BMW. Damn you.
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Are there any pics specifically of the BMW Body Color M Rocker panel blades option for the 228i?
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      03-13-2014, 01:23 PM   #654
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I ordered a base M235i (only upgrade being coral red leather) will the instrument panel still display the M235i logo on the bottom right at all times or is that only available with the tech package?
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      05-05-2014, 03:13 AM   #656
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Can anyone tell me if on the 228i, other than the differences listed on BMWUSA website, does the M sport have any other advantages over the sportline such as more cooling capacity (I thought I read somewhere that the larger front air intakes on the 328 Msport line were for better cooling capacity--not sure if it has an extra oil cooler). Or anything else? Thanks.
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damn pig

it just shows how cheap materials affect performance
It is a fact that cheap food gets you fat!
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      05-21-2014, 07:27 AM   #658
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Which weight is correct on the m235i manual?

Im seeing 3297 lb unladen in the comparos all the way up to 3505 lbs in the specs

I want the weight to be as close to my 135i as possible and 3505 is getting on the rotund side.

I also can't fathom giving up my manual gear box, but the numbers are starting to make it incredibly hard to keep it.

Seeing the M performance parts might warrant a trip to my dealer this weekend but there are still a couple of lingering concerns like weight, steering and those damn blue brakes.
M235i es Gordo!
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TMR VERDICT | OVERALL





After numerous laps of Baskerville in the M235i it was clear that this is a lot closer to an M car than BMW would have you believe.

All of the core ingredients are there. Great grip, a talkative chassis, a muscle-bound engine and strong brakes. This is a proper sports car.

Found this review by Google Search....GO BMW M235i
That is great to hear, exciting.
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Damn you BMW. Damn you.
No kidding. I'd kill for the Alcantara interior.
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