long term reliability of M235i

88stlgrym3 · 03-06-2015, 11:31 AM

thinking of getting M235i or M240i when it's time to move on from my IS350. my daily commute is 70 miles, been averaging 22k miles/year last 5 years. and this will be my only car. how would the M235i holding up long term? anyone here with high mileages please chime in. no doubt i would absolutely get the extended warranty if i make the jump.

configt · 03-06-2015, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 88stlgrym3

thinking of getting M235i or M240i when it's time to move on from my IS350. my daily commute is 70 miles, been averaging 22k miles/year last 5 years. and this will be my only car. how would the M235i holding up long term? anyone here with high mileages please chime in. no doubt i would absolutely get the extended warranty if i make the jump.

Engine wise, the N55 isn't anything new. I am sure the majority of the bugs have been worked out. If you go with the auto transmission, it's also not new. Similar transmission is being used in many different cars. I wouldn't worry about it. You have a good warranty from BMW.

overcoil · 03-06-2015, 01:21 PM

Lexus IS is very well made, Lexus paint and interior materials (though Lexus interior room is a smidgen tighter) better. BMW puts it's magic on drivetrain and suspension and you can feel that.
Lexus probably cheaper to run over the long term, water pump on BMW are electric and plastic - where Lexus is belt driven and metal.

Lucky13 · 03-06-2015, 03:09 PM

The key is finding an good independent auto repair shop after your warranty runs out. BMW's are around average for quality but the repairs can be expensive and the dealers will generally try and gouge you if you don't say no. I had my local dealer try to get me to put new plugs in my 335 which was 6 years old but only had 22K miles on it and had no problems.

hyperzulu · 03-06-2015, 03:17 PM

I got a flat tire once.

Other than that it's been good since October 2014.

davefromfla · 03-06-2015, 04:16 PM

I had an IS350. No comparison to the M235i. Had E36 M3 and E 46 M3 too. Had a G35S Infiniti too after the E46 M3, and the Lexus was very good, but not in the same league.

midwest 340xi 6sp · 03-06-2015, 07:41 PM

Bottom line is that Lexus is is generally going to be more reliable than a German car...

All a matter of where you place your value on acquiring the right vehicle for you:

Reliability
Safety
Performance
Luxury
Value

2+3=5 · 03-06-2015, 07:49 PM

11,000km in 7 months going strong

Ramos · 03-06-2015, 08:23 PM

Yeah I have 12k miles in 7 months and no issues.

I wouldn't get a first year M240i if I were you. That is going to be a brand new engines and may have first year issues.

Think HPFP, injectors, carbon buildup and wastegates on the 07-08 N54's

I lemoned my E90 335 after having all the above issues numerous times, it was an 08

Kiwi · 03-06-2015, 08:52 PM

They are all guessing, just buy the BMW and enjoy as you get 5 years warranty and after 5 years no car is not worth much. The 235 has only been out a couple of years.

Lucky13 · 03-06-2015, 09:26 PM

4 years or 50,000 miles in the US.

scrape1 · 03-06-2015, 09:29 PM

We'll know in 10 years.

So far, my 228 has been completely trouble free for 11 months. I hope it continues.

pikcachu · 03-06-2015, 09:42 PM

Our future is bright.... electric cars won't have HPFP's

we will all be driving an i2 version of the 2 series in not a distant future.....

we might end the burning in flames

cause of the Lion batteries but oh well... you can't have your car and eat it too

abp689 · 03-07-2015, 10:44 AM

How are the N54's holding up? I believe the 335is N54's are a bit more reliable due to the extra charge cooling. But I would image the long term reliability will not be kind on any of the turbos due to tiny intercoolers and high air temps and pressures involved.

Predictive Reliability: Diesel > NA > Turbo > Electric > Turbo/Electric

03-06-2015, 11:31 AM	#1
88stlgrym3 Second Lieutenant 57 Rep 202 Posts Drives: 09 Lexus IS350 Join Date: May 2005 Location: san gabriel, CA iTrader: (0)	long term reliability of M235i thinking of getting M235i or M240i when it's time to move on from my IS350. my daily commute is 70 miles, been averaging 22k miles/year last 5 years. and this will be my only car. how would the M235i holding up long term? anyone here with high mileages please chime in. no doubt i would absolutely get the extended warranty if i make the jump. __________________ 2002 steel gray M3 coupe, SMG, premium package, navigation 2008 jet black 535i sport, premium 2010 Wicked White Evolution MR Touring 2009 Smoky Granite Mica Lexus IS350, F-Sport products: 19'' staggered forged wheels, cold air intake, exhaust, rear sway bar, BC Racing coilovers
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overcoil Major General 3074 Rep 5,577 Posts Drives: M235i 6spd Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (0)	Lexus IS is very well made, Lexus paint and interior materials (though Lexus interior room is a smidgen tighter) better. BMW puts it's magic on drivetrain and suspension and you can feel that. Lexus probably cheaper to run over the long term, water pump on BMW are electric and plastic - where Lexus is belt driven and metal. Last edited by overcoil; 03-06-2015 at 03:30 PM..
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Lucky13 Lucky13 211 Rep 1,762 Posts Drives: 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30X Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbia, S.C. iTrader: (0)	The key is finding an good independent auto repair shop after your warranty runs out. BMW's are around average for quality but the repairs can be expensive and the dealers will generally try and gouge you if you don't say no. I had my local dealer try to get me to put new plugs in my 335 which was 6 years old but only had 22K miles on it and had no problems. __________________ 1995 325i, 1996 328ci, 1997 528i, 1997 Z3 2.8, 2000 528i, 2001 X5 3.0, 2001 330i Convertible, 2002 M3 Convertible, 2003 M3 Coupe, 2004 M3 Coupe, 2004 Z4 3.0, 2004 X3 3.0, 2007 X3 3.0, 2007 335i Convertible, 2013 X1 28 sdrive, 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30i Xdrive
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hyperzulu Colonel 701 Rep 2,337 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	I got a flat tire once. Other than that it's been good since October 2014. __________________
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davefromfla First Lieutenant 114 Rep 354 Posts Drives: 2021 M440ix Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I had an IS350. No comparison to the M235i. Had E36 M3 and E 46 M3 too. Had a G35S Infiniti too after the E46 M3, and the Lexus was very good, but not in the same league.
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midwest 340xi 6sp Lieutenant Colonel 360 Rep 1,797 Posts Drives: 2018 340xi Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Great Midwest iTrader: (6)	Bottom line is that Lexus is is generally going to be more reliable than a German car... All a matter of where you place your value on acquiring the right vehicle for you: Reliability Safety Performance Luxury Value __________________ Previous Rides: 535xi, M235xi, X3, E92 M3, E70 X5 35d, X6 50i, X6 35i, E60 550i, E46 M3 Cabriolet, E39 540i, E36 328i
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Ramos Colonel 863 Rep 2,897 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (6)	Yeah I have 12k miles in 7 months and no issues. I wouldn't get a first year M240i if I were you. That is going to be a brand new engines and may have first year issues. Think HPFP, injectors, carbon buildup and wastegates on the 07-08 N54's I lemoned my E90 335 after having all the above issues numerous times, it was an 08
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Kiwi Captain 145 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M Sports Convertible Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auckland New Zealand iTrader: (0)	They are all guessing, just buy the BMW and enjoy as you get 5 years warranty and after 5 years no car is not worth much. The 235 has only been out a couple of years. __________________ 2015 220i M Sport convertible. 2016 225xe M Sport.
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Lucky13 Lucky13 211 Rep 1,762 Posts Drives: 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30X Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbia, S.C. iTrader: (0)	4 years or 50,000 miles in the US. __________________ 1995 325i, 1996 328ci, 1997 528i, 1997 Z3 2.8, 2000 528i, 2001 X5 3.0, 2001 330i Convertible, 2002 M3 Convertible, 2003 M3 Coupe, 2004 M3 Coupe, 2004 Z4 3.0, 2004 X3 3.0, 2007 X3 3.0, 2007 335i Convertible, 2013 X1 28 sdrive, 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30i Xdrive
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pikcachu Major General 1403 Rep 5,262 Posts Drives: M235i (F22 Red angel) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: undisclosed iTrader: (1)	Our future is bright.... electric cars won't have HPFP's we will all be driving an i2 version of the 2 series in not a distant future..... we might end the burning in flames cause of the Lion batteries but oh well... you can't have your car and eat it too
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abp689 Second Lieutenant 54 Rep 238 Posts Drives: 328xi Wagon,330ZHP, 318Ti (MT) Join Date: May 2013 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	How are the N54's holding up? I believe the 335is N54's are a bit more reliable due to the extra charge cooling. But I would image the long term reliability will not be kind on any of the turbos due to tiny intercoolers and high air temps and pressures involved. Predictive Reliability: Diesel > NA > Turbo > Electric > Turbo/Electric
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