THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
2Addicts
2Addicts
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
2Addicts | BMW 2-Series forum BMW 2 Series (F22) Forum BMW 2 Series Coupe and Cabriolet (F22/F23) General Forum M240i (loaded w/ LSD) or M2

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-05-2016, 08:05 PM   #23
jpnh
Brigadier General
jpnh's Avatar
1424
Rep
3,395
Posts

Drives: NA
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Dont forget to factor in maint costs and potentially insurance although I admit I havent validated that myself

You're oil changes for example on that M2 will be twice the price of the M240

With that said....if I had another daily driver and the extra 10k and avail was better on the M2 I may have gone for it
Appreciate 0
      12-05-2016, 09:04 PM   #24
yaymitch
Major
yaymitch's Avatar
863
Rep
1,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2CS & 2022 RSQ8
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan86 View Post
What are your final thoughts ?

D

I'd say if it's going to be a daily, m240 is the way to go. If it's a track car/weekend only car, then M2 any day of the week, especially if priced very close.
I am still deciding, leaning towards the M240i. Already have M3 so a more comfortable daily is enticing. Although I think the M2 is probably more well-behaved at the track (over the M3) especially with my limited skills, which is why I am still considering it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpnh View Post
Dont forget to factor in maint costs and potentially insurance although I admit I havent validated that myself

You're oil changes for example on that M2 will be twice the price of the M240

With that said....if I had another daily driver and the extra 10k and avail was better on the M2 I may have gone for it
I actually wish the M2 was 10k more, then my decision would be an easy one. I checked insurance today and it is only $80.00 more per year. But I am sure oil changes and tires would be more expensive on M2 especially since I would be more likely to track it.
__________________
2020 BMW M2CS HS 6MT
2022 Audi RSQ8
Appreciate 1
rich8566608.50
      12-05-2016, 10:22 PM   #25
dasblack
Second Lieutenant
79
Rep
200
Posts

Drives: BMW M2
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Southwest FL

iTrader: (0)

M2
Appreciate 1
doccyber258.50
      12-06-2016, 12:57 AM   #26
doccyber
Captain
doccyber's Avatar
United_States
259
Rep
629
Posts

Drives: %D0%97%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

M240.
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2016, 02:21 AM   #27
Sam_M
Tea wot?
United Kingdom
210
Rep
271
Posts

Drives: 2011 N55 135i 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yaymitch View Post
Thanks for sharing, watched the whole thing and it was worth my time.
You're welcome. I found the side by side drag runs quite eye opening! You have to wonder if the M2 LCI will have the B58...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattUK View Post
I had the same question.. I've been in M cars all the time, but this time, I decided on the M240 over the M2.. cheaper for me, cheaper insurance, I don't track it so seems pointless having the additional bits.. yeah the M2 looks nicer on the outside, but the M240 is a lot of fun to drive and insurance is better.. UK roads = nicer option for me (in country)
I'm inclined to agree. I can see the M2 as a garage queen rather than a daily especially on our less than stellar roads!
Appreciate 0
      12-07-2016, 09:28 PM   #28
kern417
Cheapskate
4442
Rep
4,992
Posts

Drives: 2018 440i |2016 340i | 2010 X5
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cincinnati

iTrader: (1)

same question i'm having. but i'm not sold on paying 3k for a diff when i'm sure a quaife or wavetrac can be had and installed for cheaper down the road, so that drops the price of the m240 pretty significantly. plus i have to park my car outside and would feel especially bad doing that to an m2.
Appreciate 0
      12-07-2016, 10:24 PM   #29
yaymitch
Major
yaymitch's Avatar
863
Rep
1,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2CS & 2022 RSQ8
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kern417 View Post
same question i'm having. but i'm not sold on paying 3k for a diff when i'm sure a quaife or wavetrac can be had and installed for cheaper down the road, so that drops the price of the m240 pretty significantly. plus i have to park my car outside and would feel especially bad doing that to an m2.
I agree on the wavetrac and quaife LSDs. They are cheaper. I am going with the BMW one in order to include that under warranty and also part of the lease, plus discount. So in my case I will only pay 40% of the actual cost. If you buy the car and want to pay cash for the non-OEM options then it makes sense to save the money.
__________________
2020 BMW M2CS HS 6MT
2022 Audi RSQ8
Appreciate 0
      12-08-2016, 01:18 PM   #30
laurenxesq
Banned
Taiwan
167
Rep
358
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 & P car
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: dark angel's cave

iTrader: (0)

M2 v. 240M

I am trading in my M4 for a 240M (thank you Yiwen@Irvine BMW)

240M = sunroof, daily driver, 335 HP, less monthlies & ins

V.

M2 = NO sunroof, 90% time spent in garage(or Justin'll take the car most of the time), 365hp, more monthlies & ins$

I'll miss the DCT...but sunroof & comparable equivalent hp win me over at the end.

Appreciate 0
      12-08-2016, 01:42 PM   #31
yaymitch
Major
yaymitch's Avatar
863
Rep
1,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2CS & 2022 RSQ8
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston

iTrader: (2)

Thanks for all the responses so far. I think I have made the decision to go with the M240i simply because I already have the M3 and the M240i will be used more as a daily/comfortable car while still being fun with plenty of performance. Please keep the replies coming as it's interesting to hear different opinions and perspectives.

*As a side note and really not the point of the initial post. - I've come to find out the M2 that I was considering is not actually available although it was listed as such. It seems there is still quite a long wait (1-1.5 yrs in some cases) and some dealers are marking it up over MSRP. And when the M2 CS arrives, the current M2 may not retain it's value as well, especially if paying over MSRP.
__________________
2020 BMW M2CS HS 6MT
2022 Audi RSQ8

Last edited by yaymitch; 12-08-2016 at 08:00 PM..
Appreciate 1
      12-09-2016, 11:17 AM   #32
Dylan86
Colonel
Dylan86's Avatar
Canada
1330
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: F15d msport, F22 m235i
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: GTA

iTrader: (0)

I think you made a good choice, OP. Let us know how the delivery process goes, and make sure to show us some pics of your new coupe

D
__________________
Appreciate 1
yaymitch863.00
      12-09-2016, 12:15 PM   #33
Maynard
Colonel
United_States
3805
Rep
2,860
Posts

Drives: 228iX & M2C
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Upstate NY

iTrader: (1)

I think unless you are mainly tracking it, you'll enjoy the 240 more. The suspension will work much better on real roads, and the slight advantages for the M will be hard to exploit on a public road. Don't think anybody has mentioned it, but I'm betting that another cost savings may be in tickets - the M just says 'write 'er up'. And a few more color options in the 240.
Appreciate 2
Poochie9099.00
yaymitch863.00
      12-10-2016, 06:51 AM   #34
morphomeman
Major
morphomeman's Avatar
592
Rep
1,215
Posts

Drives: 2015 M235ix
Join Date: May 2015
Location: United States

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2016 BMW X3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M235ix  [0.00]
So in the end there was no choice at all. It turns out that the M2 was a phantom, a figment of someone's twisted imagination or just a sick joke.
For what it's worth, very few cars, if any, are worth more than list price. Almost no cars appreciate, and then only after they are at least ten years old.
Oh, and if anyone is interested, I have a1962 Ferrari 250 GTO for sale for $10 million, cash on the barrel, no questions asked. A bargain at twice the price.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2016, 02:51 AM   #35
MattUK
Captain Unsensible
MattUK's Avatar
United Kingdom
99
Rep
737
Posts

Drives: 2016 M240i Coupe - Estoril
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: United Kingdom

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 BMW M240i  [0.00]
This is very much dependant a few things.. I'll offer my views.. take them or leave them.

I've owned M cars for the last 15 years, ranging from the E36 M3, the E46 M3 and M3 CSL (Best one I've owned) E39 and E60 M5 and currently M6 Gran Coupe.

Considerations... the country you live in, the roads, the cost of fuel, the cost of insurance, how you drive, how good the cops are, if you track your car, if you mod your car, if you keep or lease the car, if you have owned a BMW before or another sports car etc.

My ultimate dream was always to have an M3, and when I finally got one, no one could have talked me out of it, it was the car I wanted.. and I loved it. Back in those days, the prices were reasonable. In the US, the pricing is still superb, but elsewhere its a different story today.

If this is your first sports car, and you are dying to get into an M car, then I would probably say if you can afford it, you can afford the insurance etc, then hell, the M2 is perfect for you, it looks fantastic, has great DCT if you like that and you will grin all day long.

Depending where you live (I am in the UK) then I have to consider the following, and this is based on the previous ownership.. quality of roads in the UK is awful, the M cars even with their variable suspension options provide a hard ride no matter what setting you are in, when you want to drive fast, great, use a track, but on the road, you are going to catch up with the next problem quicker, and then you are frustrated anyway.. motorways, well you gamble with the cops anyway, but these days you don't see many, although ANPR will probably get you in the end.

I love my M6, it looks to me stunning, it turns heads.. but its hugely impractical due to the size of our roads, car parks and generally people getting jealous (most nice cars to be honest) and the ride, which on the GT is nicer, its hard.. and on the M3 before it, sometimes when I wasnt in the mood, too hard.

The M240 provides a nice medium between the two, slightly better comfort, lower insurance, better MPG (just), hardly slow and only a fraction slower than the M2 (and that would depend on the driver anyway) and has some great looks, although the M2 looks far better.

As a daily driver, having driven it, it provides me more fun and grins than the M6 ever has, its only let down by its sparse interior, which most new BMW's have now, cheap crap inside.

I know that the ride while it will still be firm, not as firm as the M2 in its basic setting, so for me, it fits the bill perfectly.

The M2 is kinda hard to come by currently, and no doubt will be upgraded shortly to improve it over the M240.. given an instant delivery of a new M2 over M240 it might have been a tougher decision (heart over brain time) but semi normal head, says its a more practical car for ME.. I don't track cars any more, I have crap roads, and I can add a few bits to make it look a little more special.

Random thoughts from me.. so yeah if this is your first venture into the world of a real M car, hell go for it, and enjoy it, its the cheapest fun you're gonna have out there.. the value on them, I would imagine between the 2 is going to be fairly similar, I personally think the 240 will be better as there will be more demand for it (could be wrong, but based on my experience)

For me, I could get the colour I wanted, Estoril, which always used to be an M only colour in the UK, and reminds me of my first M car, so I'm happy.. the performance is stunning (only let down by its brakes) the lack of LSD.. if you have a manual, then consider it, if you have an auto, dont bother.
Appreciate 3
FunRevn60.00
yaymitch863.00
      12-11-2016, 03:16 AM   #36
2er
Private
38
Rep
72
Posts

Drives: M235i
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sydney

iTrader: (0)

^ I believe the above post is well considered and I agree 100%. If you have never had a M car, and can afford it.... Treat yourself to the M2. But, like many of us.... If you have been there , done that, and don't track the car ... I would recommend the M240.

In my 30's, even early 40's... I didn't mind standing out from the crowd, now I prefer to blend in a bit more. The M2 is a little too raucous for my tastes now. But I totally get it... Just not for me.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2016, 04:16 PM   #37
rich8566
Major
rich8566's Avatar
United_States
609
Rep
1,124
Posts

Drives: M2 + Z-4
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 BMW M235i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by yaymitch View Post
I have an M240i on order with all the options incl. LSD but I just found an M2 similarly priced. Which one would you choose?
Once you load up a 240 plus the LSD the MSRP is the same or slightly more than an M2. The real question is do you want the adjustable suspension or not.
__________________
Current: 2017 ///M2 manual 2004 E85 Z-4 manual
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2016, 09:47 PM   #38
laurenxesq
Banned
Taiwan
167
Rep
358
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 & P car
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: dark angel's cave

iTrader: (0)

many apologies...went with a M2 instead.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by laurenxesq View Post
I am trading in my M4 for a 240M (thank you Yiwen@Irvine BMW)

240M = sunroof, daily driver, 335 HP, less monthlies & ins

V.

M2 = NO sunroof, 90% time spent in garage(or Justin'll take the car most of the time), 365hp, more monthlies & ins$

I'll miss the DCT...but sunroof & comparable equivalent hp win me over at the end.

Attached Images
  

Last edited by laurenxesq; 12-15-2016 at 02:54 PM..
Appreciate 4
yaymitch863.00
qnet676.00
doccyber258.50
SeanWRT3179.00
      12-15-2016, 08:54 PM   #39
drexplode
Brigadier General
drexplode's Avatar
1764
Rep
3,055
Posts

Drives: G26 i4x
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Walled Lake Michigan

iTrader: (17)

M240 + LSD. That's my plan in the future

Rocket ship + more compliant on MI streets + rip through circles of death + awesome fuel economy + New new ZF-8 speed is delish
Appreciate 1
yaymitch863.00
      12-15-2016, 10:15 PM   #40
doccyber
Captain
doccyber's Avatar
United_States
259
Rep
629
Posts

Drives: %D0%97%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

Enjoy your M2
Appreciate 1
      12-15-2016, 11:01 PM   #41
yaymitch
Major
yaymitch's Avatar
863
Rep
1,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2CS & 2022 RSQ8
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by laurenxesq View Post
many apologies...went with a M2 instead.....
Congrats!! Was that thing just sitting around? How did you get one so fast?
__________________
2020 BMW M2CS HS 6MT
2022 Audi RSQ8
Appreciate 1
      12-15-2016, 11:22 PM   #42
qnet
Major
qnet's Avatar
United_States
676
Rep
1,012
Posts

Drives: 18 Jeep Wrangler, 18 M2 LBB
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Morrow GA.

iTrader: (0)

I would have chosen the M2, but that's the car I wanted, before I got impatient; and bought my M235i. I really enjoy my M235i so I have no doubt you will like the M240i.

What I like about the M2 is it just looks nicer and more aggressive. It's not just about it being a capable track car for me, because I drove my M235i on a track, and for a novice like me it was very fun.

It's not for everyone but I like the quad tailpipes, wider tires, bulging fenders, and nicer rims. Still wish it could be ordered with a sunroof though.

Last edited by qnet; 12-17-2016 at 09:02 AM.. Reason: Miss spelling
Appreciate 2
yaymitch863.00
      12-16-2016, 02:08 PM   #43
laurenxesq
Banned
Taiwan
167
Rep
358
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 & P car
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: dark angel's cave

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by doccyber View Post
Enjoy your M2
Thank you
Appreciate 0
      12-16-2016, 02:09 PM   #44
laurenxesq
Banned
Taiwan
167
Rep
358
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 & P car
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: dark angel's cave

iTrader: (0)

Someone got declined by BMW FS. And Yiwen Ting with Irvine BMW was so kind to let me buy it. Of course, I paid more then sticker price...but it's well worth it.

How is your M240?



Quote:
Originally Posted by yaymitch View Post
Congrats!! Was that thing just sitting around? How did you get one so fast?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 AM.




2addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST