[deathsliver]

Originally Posted by disco4me

It is not allowed in the U.S. BMW decodes it for U.S.

Do you know what why it is not allowed in the US?

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by deathsliver

Do you know what why it is not allowed in the US?

I remember reading a thread about this. Too bad it's not allowed in the US. I think the reason had something do with Government control. It's not sanctioned as yet in the US

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by Bennu

I remember reading a thread about this. Too bad it's not allowed in the US. I think the reason had something do with Government control. It's not sanctioned as yet in the US

Oh land of the free.

[bernstem]

It isn't allowed in the US because regulators have not been convinced the benefits (if any) outweigh the potential risks (e.g. blinding oncoming drivers). The major euro manufacturers are lobbying to allow it, but there is no word one way or the other. I expect that it will be allowed at some point, but wouldn't expect to see it before 2016 in the US.

If you order auto high beams in the US, you will see two vehicle chassis codes on the order sheet that disable the active high beams. They are 5AP (Decoding for no-dazzle high-beam assist) and 8S4 (Variable light decoding). The hardware and software coding is all there, but those two codes are what prevent it from working in the US.

[patbrass]

Originally Posted by bernstem

It isn't allowed in the US because regulators have not been convinced the benefits (if any) outweigh the potential risks (e.g. blinding oncoming drivers). The major euro manufacturers are lobbying to allow it, but there is no word one way or the other. I expect that it will be allowed at some point, but wouldn't expect to see it before 2016 in the US.

If you order auto high beams in the US, you will see two vehicle chassis codes on the order sheet that disable the active high beams. They are 5AP (Decoding for no-dazzle high-beam assist) and 8S4 (Variable light decoding). The hardware and software coding is all there, but those two codes are what prevent it from working in the US.

Yup, I can see that on my build sheet. My next step is some coding investigation

[Oyinko]

According to the manual, you also need a button on the turn signal to activate automatic high beams. That's why I guess only coding will not work.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by Oyinko

According to the manual, you also need a button on the turn signal to activate automatic high beams. That's why I guess only coding will not work.

Yes you do. The button on the end of the turn signal stalk is a two part affair. Upper scrolls through the OBC menu and the lower activates the HBA. (high beam assist)

[Pray for Mojo]

I wonder if its disabled on my Canadian car.

[Bahuba]

I have this feature (cdn car, i think this comes with the exec. pkg). Tried it last night by putting the lights on low beam and hitting the high beam assist. button. Works as adverised.

[darkerosxx]

Why do they decode if you need the button?

[Pray for Mojo]

I have the button, will try it this weekend.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by darkerosxx

Why do they decode if you need the button?

Everyone has the button if they pay for auto hi beams. They remove the coded option for US cars so the headlights don't swivel around, they just turn off and back on.

[Killramos]

On my Canadian car I have the button but I think the no dazzle is coded. To be honest I have yet to drive my car on the highway at night and have never turned on the high beams in 2 months lol.

Two relevant codes on my car form MyBMW are:

08S4 Decoding, variable light distribution
05AC High-Beam Assistant

Another one is German is:
05AP Dekodierung blendfr, fernlichtassistent

Can anyone confirm non dazzle high beams working on a stock Canadian car with exec package?

[Pray for Mojo]

Originally Posted by Killramos

On my Canadian car I have the button but I think the no dazzle is coded. To be honest I have yet to drive my car on the highway at night and have never turned on the high beams in 2 months lol.

Two relevant codes on my car form MyBMW are:

08S4 Decoding, variable light distribution
05AC High-Beam Assistant

Another one is German is:
05AP Dekodierung blendfr, fernlichtassistent

Can anyone confirm non dazzle high beams working on a stock Canadian car with exec package?

That sucks, it's probably because BMW internally treats our cars as US market.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by darkerosxx

Why do they decode if you need the button?

they decode the anti-dazle and the variable light distribution.... not the high beam assist

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by patbrass

Yup, I can see that on my build sheet. My next step is some coding investigation

Looks like it is pretty simple to re-code anti-dazzle and variable light distribution

just remove 5AP and 8SA from your VO and code FLA and FEM_BODY module

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=53

(note: you will lose any previous coding of the FEM_BODY module and FLA, so you will have to re-code it again)

damn it, i should have order the damn "high beam assist" $250 option

[darkerosxx]

So you actually have to have ordered the hardware? I'm not really sure I wholly understand what's going on here with the 3 different pieces.

[pikcachu]

Not sure what 3 pieces you talking but to summarize....

In europe if you get "high beam assistant" you also get the
anti-glare high beam (will turn off one headlight individually if there is incoming traffic) and variable light distribution (will make a shadow tunnel so high beam is always on even with cars in front but your don't daze them)

In the US if you get "high beam assistant" the high beams when you have incoming traffic go completely off... as anti-glare and variable light distribution is disabled...

So you do need "high beam assist" which comes with an extra button on the left lever on the steering...and the cameras to make the system work

did this answer your question?

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by patbrass

I'm probably way over-simplifying but I'd guess you need 4 things for replicating what is shown in the video:
1) a camera that can detect upcoming vehicles (or catching up someone)
2) headlights that can independently swivel (left/right/up/down)
3) some software that can take the image from (1), figure out pretty quickly the optimal headlight position and pass the information to (2)
4) some way to activate this whole thing (switch, iDrive option, always on, etc.)

Now, the question is what comes standard, what comes with the premium package and what comes with the $250 automatic high beam option.

I think the (1) camera comes with the $250 automatic high beam option but not sure about anything else.

Anyone can shed some light?

At least you need a new mirror with the high beam camera...
and probably the lever on the steering wheel although you might be able to code it to always on and not need the different lever with the button...

here is a DIY for the e9x model

[darkerosxx]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

Not sure what 3 pieces you talking but to summarize....

In europe if you get "high beam assistant" you also get the
anti-glare high beam (will turn off one headlight individually if there is incoming traffic) and variable light distribution (will make a shadow tunnel so high beam is always on even with cars in front but your don't daze them)

In the US if you get "high beam assistant" the high beams when you have incoming traffic go completely off... as anti-glare and variable light distribution is disabled...

So you do need "high beam assist" which comes with an extra button on the left lever on the steering...and the cameras to make the system work

did this answer your question?

So in the US, if you didn't buy that package, will the part work where the headlights gradually move "upwards" as your speed increases, if you code the feature on?

[pikcachu]

Yes, you can re-code the variable light distribution by removing 8S4 from the VO and VO code the FEM_BODY....

or you can probably just FDL code the 2 settings too instead of VO code...

This is what VLD does

"Variable Light Distribution has several different modes of operation (for Low Beam):

1 - City Light: Shallow and Very Wide Beam Pattern active from 0 - 50kph (30MPH) (Both Headlamps are Panned outwards 12° horizontal from center and 0.7° lowered vertically)

2 - Standard Light: Same Basic Beam Pattern as with 8S4 Enabled and Headlamp Switch Set to Auto. Active from 50 - 110kph (30MPH - 68MPH)

3 - Guiding Fog Light - Shallow and Wider Beam Pattern Enabled with the Front Fog Lamps On and Headlamp Switch in Auto and Speed 0 - 110kph (Both headlamps are panned outwards 8° horizontal from center and lowered 0.7° vertically)

4 - Highway Light - Long Throw Pattern illuminating approx. 25% further than Standard Light. Active from 110 to 250kph (68MPH- 155MHP). (Driver's Side Headlamp is panned 3.5° outwards Horizontal from center and lowered 0.25° vertically, while the passenger side headlamp is raised 0.2° vertical)"

take a look at the cheat sheet thread in the DIY coding subforum... http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...=997749&page=4

[Oyinko]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

Yes, you can re-code the variable light distribution by removing 8S4 from the VO and VO code the FEM_BODY....

or you can probably just FDL code the 2 settings too instead of VO code...

This is what VLD does

"Variable Light Distribution has several different modes of operation (for Low Beam):


4 - Highway Light - Long Throw Pattern illuminating approx. 25% further than Standard Light. Active from 110 to 250kph (68MPH- 155MHP). (Driver's Side Headlamp is panned 3.5° outwards Horizontal from center and lowered 0.25° vertically, while the passenger side headlamp is raised 0.2° vertical)"

I coded the vld but I didn't see any difference on freeway. Did I miss something?