BREAKING: M235i and 2 Series Specs Go Official!! 322hp for M235i

alex s · 10-09-2013, 01:50 AM

So M235i is 40 kilos lighter than 1M, has significantly smaller tires, open diff and down on power again compared to 1M. So what is this guy talking about???

There's no way, even with that diff!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=879274

Very disappointing!

Powaup · 10-09-2013, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

M235i is a very very cool car IMO. I would happily have one of these over a stupid 435i. If there is an M2, it will be very high on my list to follow my E90 M3 in about 4-5 years.
The link from OP is no longer directing to anything 2 series related. The page was probably taken down.

still works click on car configurator then 2 series

ORIGIN M. · 10-09-2013, 02:16 AM

Ummm... IF there is no true LSD they are completely crazy!!!

GeeRam · 10-09-2013, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex s

So M235i is 40 kilos lighter than 1M, has significantly smaller tires, open diff and down on power again compared to 1M. So what is this guy talking about???

There's no way, even with that diff!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=879274

Very disappointing!

You didn't honestly believe any of that buildup hype marketing bullshit did you........

As I have fully expected for months now, the M235 will be the same a M135 but just in a coupe body,
......so, electric steering (and if you've driven a M135 already you'll know poor that is compared with a E82 135i) and no DCT option only the ZF auto.
I'm sure the LSD will appear on the dealer fit M performance accessories list, but that will be a likely very expensive option being a complete exchange unit because of the welded diff....as already mentioned.

I can't see anything about the M235 to get me that excited.

Robin_NL · 10-09-2013, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

nice find.... so no LSD ?

Nice specs nontheless, but NEXT!

Imo A mech LSD does more to a sporty rwd car than >50BHP or minus 50 or 100kg does(at this weight)

(M2, but Dear God not a 4 cylinder please!)

Cheers
Robin

seanq · 10-09-2013, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikcachu

nice find.... so no LSD ?

Nice specs nontheless, but NEXT!

Imo A mech LSD does more to a sporty rwd car than >50BHP or minus 50 or 100kg does(at this weight)

(M2, but Dear God not a 4 cylinder please!)

Cheers
Robin

Why the M2 would be a 4 cylinder if the M235i is 6.
Makes no sense IMHO

Vervain · 10-09-2013, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by seanq

Why the M2 would be a 4 cylinder if the M235i is 6.
Makes no sense IMHO

It doesn't but BMW insiders have confirmed this.

Vervain · 10-09-2013, 04:27 AM

LOL BMW South Africa has disabled their configurator.

Maxib37 · 10-09-2013, 05:03 AM

Soo not that fast then, i guess mercedes will be winning again

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Anodite10

It doesn't but BMW insiders have confirmed this.

So there is a chance the M2 will be a 4 cylinder? It kind of makes sense when you look at the Mercedes CLA45 AMG. 2.0 4cyl turbo (355 HP / 322 lb-ft). So it would make sense, but still be terribly disappointing nonetheless. At least the M2 would have a rear wheel drive and LSD advantage ... for now.

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anodite10

LOL BMW South Africa has disabled their configurator.

Well, ... YEAH! You clearly caught them off guard! This car is clearly not ready to go live on a configurator. These are the moments that keep car enthusiasts coming back to forums for. Very nice job Anodite, and thanks for sharing this info!

I am pretty sure this was a test of some sorts for the configuration before going live next month, but it looks like someone forgot to make it private or what not. Nice catch dude!

I bet Jason is somewhere scratching his head, not being sure how to handle this.

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:04 AM

I am very interested in this car (M235i not the M2). Subscribed for updates.

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

E46 M3
length: 4490
front track: 1508
rear track: 1525

M235i
length: 4454
front track: 1516
rear track: 1532

So a bit shorter than E46 M3, with a wider stance front and rear. I am liking this very much.

Great! Thanks!

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:16 AM

VERY happy they kept the N55 for the M235i (as it appears from this leaked reveal).

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknaz

No LSD in options or standard equipment list is disappointing.

...

Pretty sure it will be standard on the M235i. We will have to wait for further confirmation.

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

M235 available in xDrive?

For the North American market, the answer to your question would be YES!

Falafel Combo · 10-09-2013, 06:19 AM

Possibly not a very smart question, but are mechanical LSD and xDrive mutually exclusive options?

Robin_NL · 10-09-2013, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M235i

Possibly not a very smart question, but are mechanical LSD and xDrive mutually exclusive options?

If I understand your question correctly: Yes they are.

They are 2 different options/things. I don't think the M235i will come standard with a mech lsd but I HOPE it will be an option (just like on the F30/32 335/435 from now on)

Anyway, if the M2 gets a 4 cylinder with at least 340BHP(because the A45 AMG already has 360 out of 2 litres) and gets a weight more near 1350 than 1400kgs, I'm sold as well

Cheers
Robin

GeeRam · 10-09-2013, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanq

Why the M2 would be a 4 cylinder if the M235i is 6.
Makes no sense IMHO

Why not, it's not like BMW haven't done it before.

E30 M3 was a 4 cyl, and top of the line sporty non-M was the six cylinder 323i.

Advevo · 10-09-2013, 06:52 AM

If the M2 gets a 4 cil then most will buy a M235i and put the wide body panels, wheels and LSD from the M2 on it.

I don t think ///M would like it that way.

cc3 · 10-09-2013, 07:40 AM

I am sure it will drive well but why does the design have to be so boring. Other than the i8 BMW just seems to turn out bland designs these says. M helps but they could do a lot better. Come on BMW stop this nonsense of the accountants running things and give us design in line with your Motorsport heritage.

My wife buys BMW coupes but has looked at the pictures of the 2 series and said not for her as just not enough flair in the design.

Pure · 10-09-2013, 07:41 AM

Impressive.!
You could not see the configurator.
However assert in many exterior colors that would be available.

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