Any hands on reviews of the M240 yet?

Sportstick · 08-20-2016, 04:19 PM

Outside is real. Inside...turn on the radio.

B_Rice · 08-20-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfbrah

There is absolutely no guarantee of that. If they ramp up production and start spitting more out than you can expect the same kind of depreciation that M3s see.

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Originally Posted by DF

No more than an m3

I'M not saying it'll keep value like a 1M, but every M across the board is considerably more valuable than their non M counterparts.

DF · 08-20-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Rice

I'M not saying it'll keep value like a 1M, but every M across the board is considerably more valuable than their non M counterparts.

Only because their msrp is higher. Used m cars are not expensive. There are tons of them out there

wtfbrah · 08-21-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportstick

Outside is real. Inside...turn on the radio.

Don't see what's wrong with fake sound if it gets the blood pumping.

Cavpilot2k · 08-22-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wtfbrah

Don't see what's wrong with fake sound if it gets the blood pumping.

I suppose you're right. I mean most of us prefer real tits, but won't turn away fake ones, especially if they "get the blood pumping".

I test drove a 235 before deciding to get my second 135 and I didn't find the active sound to be a bad sound, it just grates against the driving purist in me. I guess it's okay if youre going to keep stock exhaust, since stock is too quiet for my taste. I would upgrade exhaust - I am in love with the sound of the PE on my 135. I would just hope that the active sound won't interfere with the exhaust note of an upgraded system, which shouldn't need artificial amplification.

bimmerfile · 08-22-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportstick

Outside is real. Inside...turn on the radio.

Or get the 2er ragtop. The sound is real - and real good..

wtfbrah · 08-22-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Or get the 2er ragtop. The sound is real - and real good..

I drove the convertible just to try and I cannot stand how the inside feels like there's just a tent over you and the back window is absurdly tiny.

Only way to drive that thing is with the top down. I guess screw safety if you roll, though.

mwickens · 08-22-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wtfbrah

I guess screw safety if you roll, though.

I'm sure it’s not quite as safe as a proper roof, but the windshield frame is reinforced and there are pop-up roll bars behind the rear passenger seats.

AlpsRider · 08-22-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by siwo

At the 0:22 mark, it seems as though the M235i has caught up with speed at about the 180km/h mark (in terms of speed and not distance traveled) and as I continue watching this, it appears that the M235i actually goes much faster than the M2 towards the 240km/h mark ....not sure the distance traveled if the M235i has caught up to the M2, I doubt it...

The M2 has much bigger tires which is better for cornering and worse for acceleration except right off the line.

bladeomatic · 08-23-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kdog26372

If you want a softer ride with the adaptive suspension, more color choices, aren't going to push the limits of the car, want AWD and $8k is a big deal to you the M240i is your car. If you want to feel like you are on rails and fully connected to your vehicle and the price spread isn't important then the M2 is a much better overall performance car...better brakes/cooling/suspension/beefed up engine internals/DCT vs. regular auto/and lighter weight.

This, in a nutshell.

Having driven both, you simply need to ask yourself if you want that aggressive, noisier, stiffer feeling of a track car, or the quieter, gentler, more livability of a sport coupe.

For me, the harsher ride and louder drone at hiway speeds makes the M2 a bit annoying, on those times when you're just trying to put miles behind you. Plus the city streets around here are a bit choppy, making the M2 simply a harsher ride. Of course those melt away when you're on a track, but that's not often enough for me to warrant the abuse of daily driving.

I'm SUCH an M235i/M240i fan, as it has the best Jeckyl/Hyde of many cars I've driven. Comfort mode for gentle commuting around town with Mom in the front seat. Sport+ for that spirited blast down a windy country road. It's performance numbers are just a shade off the M2, but it's livability is miles better IMO.

good luck!

Dylan86 · 08-23-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeomatic

This, in a nutshell.

Having driven both, you simply need to ask yourself if you want that aggressive, noisier, stiffer feeling of a track car, or the quieter, gentler, more livability of a sport coupe.

I'm SUCH an M235i/M240i fan, as it has the best Jeckyl/Hyde of many cars I've driven. Comfort mode for gentle commuting around town with Mom in the front seat. Sport+ for that spirited blast down a windy country road. It's performance numbers are just a shade off the M2, but it's livability is miles better IMO.

good luck!

Rationale, right here. Well said, and I completely agree. Of course an M2 would be nice, but there are drawbacks for the every day user.

AlpsRider · 08-23-2016, 12:08 PM

Something that I haven't heard mentioned is that the M235i has a drag coefficient of .33, the M4 .34, and the M2 .35.
That doesn't sound like much difference, but at high speed it matters.

wtfbrah · 08-23-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Something that I haven't heard mentioned is that the M235i has a drag coefficient of .33, the M4 .34, and the M2 .35.
That doesn't sound like much difference, but at high speed it matters.

Wait, M235 has lower drag coefficient than bot M4 and M2? Doesn't make sense... Unless I don't understand drag coefficient

Joe240 · 08-23-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfbrah

Wait, M235 has lower drag coefficient than bot M4 and M2? Doesn't make sense... Unless I don't understand drag coefficient

wide body means more surface area. That means more drag.

Viffermike · 08-23-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

I suppose you're right. I mean most of us prefer real tits, but won't turn away fake ones, especially if they "get the blood pumping".

Emphasis on 'most'. Bolt-ons are a personal dealbreaker (and I live in the land of 'em) ... but I digress ...

... and ASD negatively affects the sound quality of the stereo, so that doesn't work, either ...

... and BTW: Drag coefficient is a measure of flow efficiency. As Joe240 correctly points out, as a general rule, the more leading surface area an object has, the more drag it will create -- particularly on performance cars and their extra ducting, larger intake areas, and wider tires.

AlpsRider · 08-23-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfbrah

Wait, M235 has lower drag coefficient than bot M4 and M2? Doesn't make sense... Unless I don't understand drag coefficient

Those are published figures.

E-Brake_85 · 08-24-2016, 07:39 AM

Longtime lurker here. In the same boat as the OP. This video has been the closest I've seen as far as a comparison between the 240i/140i and the m2. Check out the guy's other videos, he owns both an M2 and M135i. He seems to really like the 140i a lot...

PackPride85 · 08-24-2016, 08:19 AM

If you test drive both (going to be hard with the M2) and you don't notice a difference or very little, the M2 is not for you.

If you drive any M car aggressively like they were intended, its very noticeable. If you want the AWD and just like to cruise around town nothing wrong with the m240. I would have bought an m235 w/o hesitation if there was no M2.

Despite what people have said in here, the M2 will most likely hold its value better than any other BMW due to lower production. There is no "ramping" in a factory that is already at capacity for a vehicle that turns little profit. Especially when the head of BMW M likes to boast about having a 1 year wait list.

OpenAir · 08-24-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jmull3r

...But if there was an M2 convertible, I like the more aggressive lines of the M2 so personally I would go with that...

Don't we wish..."SIGH"

Joe240 · 08-24-2016, 09:06 AM

Lets face it, with a $5k difference in price, just get the m240i convertible with the manhart widebody kit and call it a day if you want an m2 convertible.

Cavpilot2k · 08-24-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Viffermike

Emphasis on 'most'. Bolt-ons are a personal dealbreaker (and I live in the land of 'em) ... but I digress ...

... and ASD negatively affects the sound quality of the stereo, so that doesn't work, either ...

Mostly agree - While I would not make a permanent investment in bolt-ons, they have proven fun for test drives in the past.

Yeah, I think ASD would interfere with the stereo. With two input channels simultaneously competing for speaker bandwidth, how could it not detract?

mwickens · 08-24-2016, 08:06 PM

Here's a review by two kids who can't be old enough to drive.

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AlpsRider Brigadier General 2865 Rep 3,842 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, LBB, 6MT Join Date: May 2015 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Something that I haven't heard mentioned is that the M235i has a drag coefficient of .33, the M4 .34, and the M2 .35. That doesn't sound like much difference, but at high speed it matters.
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E-Brake_85 Registered 27 Rep 4 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Lower Merion, PA iTrader: (0)	Longtime lurker here. In the same boat as the OP. This video has been the closest I've seen as far as a comparison between the 240i/140i and the m2. Check out the guy's other videos, he owns both an M2 and M135i. He seems to really like the 140i a lot...
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PackPride85 Lieutenant Colonel 1120 Rep 1,644 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	If you test drive both (going to be hard with the M2) and you don't notice a difference or very little, the M2 is not for you. If you drive any M car aggressively like they were intended, its very noticeable. If you want the AWD and just like to cruise around town nothing wrong with the m240. I would have bought an m235 w/o hesitation if there was no M2. Despite what people have said in here, the M2 will most likely hold its value better than any other BMW due to lower production. There is no "ramping" in a factory that is already at capacity for a vehicle that turns little profit. Especially when the head of BMW M likes to boast about having a 1 year wait list.
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