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      08-10-2016, 03:49 PM   #1
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ATS-V Coupe or M235i Cab?

I previously owned a M235i Coupe, which I recently transferred the lease on. Reason being, I wanted to get a M235i convertible. However, I have a deal on the table for a new ATS-V Coupe lease. Car has a MSRP of $73K and my lease payment would be $515 per month including tax for 39 months/12K per year. Drive off of $1100 total.

Compare that to a $59K M235i Cab I'm looking at which comes out to $587 per month including tax for 36 months/10K per year. Drive off of $1140 total.

Am I crazy to consider the ATS-V Coupe? Sure, it doesn't get me the convertible I want, but the deal just seems way too good to pass up. A $73K car that competes with the M4 for $515 per month? Yeah, it's kinda nuts.

My wife thinks I'm crazy for considering a Caddy. She thinks I'll regret it, regardless of the price. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. I've been struggling with the decision and would like to make one this week. Right now, I'm leaning towards the ATS-V...

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      08-10-2016, 03:54 PM   #2
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I think for a dd, it doesn't matter which you go with, although I'd be inclined to say the caddy would probably have a better ride regardless of it being a sports car. Not to mention you pay less and get more miles per year. Since you've had an m235i, id say go for the caddy and experience it since the new 235/240 is going to ride the same with the exception of a top down.

Personally, I'd go the caddy route but that's me being a pushrod fan.
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      08-10-2016, 04:06 PM   #3
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I am probably a BMW guy for life just based on how much I've loved each one so far.

But...I took a good hard look at the ATS V at one point and it looks awesome. I'd probably go for that especially considering the price. I didn't test drive one so I can't speak on that, but it certainly looks great and has some great power/features.
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      08-10-2016, 04:32 PM   #4
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You're getting an m4 competitor for cheaper than M235i payments..

If it were an LS-variant car I'd say definitely do it.. but for now I'll just say to do it. GM has been making some crazy fun stuff lately. Good chassis, engines, suspensions.. despite it's still a GM product inside.
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      08-10-2016, 04:45 PM   #5
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That ATS-V is an awesome car, and for that price I'd give it a shot.
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      08-10-2016, 04:54 PM   #6
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Considering the ATS v is on par perhaps even better than an m4 I don't think u would regret it
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      08-10-2016, 05:10 PM   #7
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Your wife sounds pretty smart to me, Caddy is dumping inventory because they can't sell the ATS or CTS but no doubt its a good deal. Why would someone buy an ATS-V coupe when you can get the same car in a Camaro SS for $30K less?
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      08-10-2016, 05:11 PM   #8
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I am probably a BMW guy for life just based on how much I've loved each one so far.

But...I took a good hard look at the ATS V at one point and it looks awesome. I'd probably go for that especially considering the price. I didn't test drive one so I can't speak on that, but it certainly looks great and has some great power/features.
Wouldn't it make sense to test drive one?
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      08-10-2016, 05:13 PM   #9
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Compare that to a $59K M235i Cab I'm looking at which comes out to $587 per month including tax for 36 months/10K per year. Drive off of $1140 total.
How the hell is this possible?

Residual? MF? Looks like basically zero down...
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ATS-V for sure. Love that car.
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      08-10-2016, 05:51 PM   #11
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I am probably a BMW guy for life just based on how much I've loved each one so far.

But...I took a good hard look at the ATS V at one point and it looks awesome. I'd probably go for that especially considering the price. I didn't test drive one so I can't speak on that, but it certainly looks great and has some great power/features.
Wouldn't it make sense to test drive one?
No, I was dead set on my M235
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      08-10-2016, 05:53 PM   #12
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For that coin go for the ATS. That's one hell of a car for that money.
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      08-10-2016, 06:03 PM   #13
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How the hell is this possible?

Residual? MF? Looks like basically zero down...
61% residual. MF of 0.00117 since I get a 0.00020 discount using my fleet incentive. Yes, it's zero down. Just first payment and lic/fees due at signing.
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm going to go drive the ATS-V a bit more before I decide.

I'll keep you posted on my decision.
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The insurance would be higher but caddy is in major trouble. I would lease but not buy.
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The insurance would be higher but caddy is in major trouble. I would lease but not buy.
Can you point to anything that says Cadillac is in trouble?
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Can you point to anything that says Cadillac is in trouble?
GM products are known to not be really good at keeping value.... at all. Especially Cadillac.

Definitely lease.
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      08-10-2016, 09:57 PM   #18
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Your wife sounds pretty smart to me, Caddy is dumping inventory because they can't sell the ATS or CTS but no doubt its a good deal. Why would someone buy an ATS-V coupe when you can get the same car in a Camaro SS for $30K less?
Looks, some sleeper qualities.

I have been a big fan of the ATS V and stopped by to check it out when I was shopping but the sticker scared me away. Maybe I should have gotten into some talks.
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Go for the ATS-V and then after the lease is over jump back to another BMW. It'll be an opportunity to appreciate the BMW brand even more. My only non BMW car in the last 20 yrs was an 03 Audi S4 and I couldn't wait until the lease was over to come back to BMW.
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ATS-V Coupe is not a nice looking car.

You either want a convertible or a coupe surly that is the decision not price.
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ATS-V Coupe is not a nice looking car.

You either want a convertible or a coupe surly that is the decision not price.
I think it's a nice looking vehicle, but that's the great thing about opinions
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      08-11-2016, 08:09 AM   #22
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm going to go drive the ATS-V a bit more before I decide.

I'll keep you posted on my decision.
The Caddy ATS-V is an awesome vehicle - definitely equal or more than equal to the its German rivals (BMW M3/M4. MB-AMG 63S, Audi RS3/RS4).
Watch this rather lengthy 2016 Cadillac ATS-V vs. 2016 Mercedes-AMG C63 S comparo.
The ATS-V beat the MB-AMG 63S on every metric.

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