[peanutcracker1]

Hi guys,

I was planning on taking my time on buying new wheels and tires for my m235i xdrive, but I just took a nail through my stock all season runflat. I have a separate car for the winter, so I am looking to put on some purely nice weather tires. I am looking to use my car only for enjoyment on nice days and also maybe doing time attack at local raceway. Can anyone comment on the following?

VMR 810 Gunmetal wheels on Alpine White m235i xdrive
18x8.5 ET35 in the front with a 225/40/18 tire and
18x9.5 ET45 in the rear with a 255/35/18 tire
Tires will be Michelin Pilot Super Sports

I am looking for a flat look with no poke and no camber. I am not concerned about the wheels being flush to fender - I don't want to deal with spacers. I want to maintain traction even in turns. I do have an Enzo ECU tune and downpipe - I currently have square stock 225's all the way around on 7.5" wheels. I lose traction if I turn the wheel at all while flooring it on the stock all season run flats.

Also - what about a spare? Should I just carry around a patch kit and air compressor? Or should I buy a spare?

Thanks

[Joe240]

I'm running 8.5et39 in the front with 235s and it pokes roughly 3mm. The 8.5et35 would poke roughly 7mm past the fender even with 225s because 235 wheels are flush with 8.5 wheels. Rear would poke roughly 10-14mm. I know that because I have 9.5et44 with 265s. Again 265 is roughly flush with the 9.5 wheel. Need more aggressive offsets and possibly narrower wheels like 8s in the front and 9s in the rear.

[peanutcracker1]

Thanks! What about this then?

If I want to do 225/40R18 in front and 255/35R18 rear (PSS), will this work?

I am thinking:

18 8.5" ET45 Front (instead of ET35 previously)
18 9.5" ET58 Rear

Would the fronts and rears clear the suspension okay? Or will I need a spacers just to clear it?

From what you said, I would need a 3mm spacer in front to make it flush (although I'm not as concerned about it being inside the fender rather than outside, as long as it clears suspension).

Would I need spacers to clear the suspension in the rear? What about to make it flush?

Originally Posted by Joe240

I'm running 8.5et39 in the front with 235s and it pokes roughly 3mm. The 8.5et35 would poke roughly 7mm past the fender even with 225s because 235 wheels are flush with 8.5 wheels. Rear would poke roughly 10-14mm. I know that because I have 9.5et44 with 265s. Again 265 is roughly flush with the 9.5 wheel. Need more aggressive offsets and possibly narrower wheels like 8s in the front and 9s in the rear.

[x233]

Ideal and safe:
8x18 ET38 front
9x18 ET45 rear

Alternatively:
8x18 ET37 front
9x18 ET44 rear

With tires: 225/40 front and 245/35 or 255/35 rear.

ps: don't go with wider wheels and/or more aggressive offsets unless your intention is to have heavier wheels, compromised grip with stretched tire, or the car to look goofy and have clearance issues.

[Transfer]

You want 225 front and 255 rear. Several of us with xDrive feel this is a better handling setup for our cars than the poorly chosen 245 rear. It's not clear if it has to do with better matching front/rear diameters with 255s or that the heavily rear biased xDrive likes the rear traction but it works very well.

Offset ET45 will either be fender flush or poke a smidge depending on your personal tolerances for that sort of thing. Not sure about ET58 but if that is a 1er fitment it's probably ok. Check with VMR. I like ET40 front and ET50 rear ideally but that's a tough combo to find.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by peanutcracker1

Thanks! What about this then?

If I want to do 225/40R18 in front and 255/35R18 rear (PSS), will this work?

I am thinking:

18 8.5" ET45 Front (instead of ET35 previously)
18 9.5" ET58 Rear

Would the fronts and rears clear the suspension okay? Or will I need a spacers just to clear it?

From what you said, I would need a 3mm spacer in front to make it flush (although I'm not as concerned about it being inside the fender rather than outside, as long as it clears suspension).

Would I need spacers to clear the suspension in the rear? What about to make it flush?

8.5et45 would require at least a 5mm spacer, maybe 6 or 7 to be safe. My fronts are pretty close to the suspension already. The 8.5 wheels are just very wide so minimal poke is to be expected. honestly 3mm isn't much at all and under compression it still tucks inside the wheel well. Would still suggest rolling front fenders to avoid rubbing. I haven't tracked yet so don't know if mine will rub under hard cornering.
9.5et58 might need a spacer as well. I have clearance in the back to push in more, but I don't think I have 14mm more space. You might need a small spacer in the rear as well.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Transfer

You want 225 front and 255 rear. Several of us with xDrive feel this is a better handling setup for our cars than the poorly chosen 245 rear. It's not clear if it has to do with better matching front/rear diameters with 255s or that the heavily rear biased xDrive likes the rear traction but it works very well.

Offset ET45 will either be fender flush or poke a smidge depending on your personal tolerances for that sort of thing. Not sure about ET58 but if that is a 1er fitment it's probably ok. Check with VMR. I like ET40 front and ET50 rear ideally but that's a tough combo to find.

I definitely noticed better handling when I put the 235/265 combo. Agreed not sure if it's because more grip or the xDrive likes it better (225/255 is closer in diameter than the 225/255 stock setup, but 235/265 in the 19s makes it even closer).

Like I said above, the et45 on an 8.5in wheel will rub the suspension. et40 is the max without rubbing the suspension with the 8.5in wheels from what others have experienced with the 8.5et45 wheels.

Agree that the et40/et50 combo is tough to find. I would prefer that kind of a setup though with the 8.5in/9.5in wheel combo.

[VMRWheels]

Definitely some good feedback in this thread!

After asking around, it seems that the general consensus is that the ET58 would require a spacer. There have been reports that the ET50 just barely brushes the suspension, when the car is in the air. Generally, when the car is on the ground, this isn't an issue.

[Joe240]

Ya I noticed my rears were much closer when I had it on the lift than I remember when it was on the ground.

[zipphreak]

Front, im running 235/40/18 on VMR 810 18x8.5 ET 45 (3mm spacer). 3-5mm spacer is only required if your running stock -0.5 camber. If you have camber plates and have -2 or so degrees it provides more clearance, and won't necessarily require the spacers. Although i still have them in there for sanity, since the ET45 is still pretty close with 235's.

Rear, im running 265/35/18 on VMR 810 18x9.5 ET 50 (no spacer). Yes it's close on the lift to the plastic strut cover, but tracking the car i have had no issues. I have run both Bridgestone S04's and Hankook RS3V2's.

[peanutcracker1]

So my only issue is that that particular wheel (VMR 810) only seems to come in 8.5" (ET 35/45) and 9.5" (ET 33/45/58), no 8 and 9. So It seems the best I can do (to not poke and to clear suspension) is get 8.5" front and put on 3mm spacer (per zipphreak) then get ET58 rear and put an 8mm spacer? Is this the general consensus of the thread?

Originally Posted by x233

Ideal and safe:
8x18 ET38 front
9x18 ET45 rear

Alternatively:
8x18 ET37 front
9x18 ET44 rear

With tires: 225/40 front and 245/35 or 255/35 rear.

ps: don't go with wider wheels and/or more aggressive offsets unless your intention is to have heavier wheels, compromised grip with stretched tire, or the car to look goofy and have clearance issues.

[zipphreak]

I think there are others here running Apex wheels 18x9.5 ET 58 rear in similar widths.
Try contacting VMR on the forum here, and see if they have similar setups on the 2 series.

See this link: http://www.myapexparts.com/2014/12/1...-on-bmw-m235i/

[billy gunn]

I run Apex wheels, not VMRs but I run 8.5 et45 with a 3mm spacer up front, and 9.5 et58 with a 5mm in the rear. This is with a 235/265 combo. Not rubbing, but close. This ends up being pretty close to flush.

[x233]

Originally Posted by peanutcracker1

So my only issue is that that particular wheel (VMR 810) only seems to come in 8.5" (ET 35/45) and 9.5" (ET 33/45/58), no 8 and 9. So It seems the best I can do (to not poke and to clear suspension) is get 8.5" front and put on 3mm spacer (per zipphreak) then get ET58 rear and put an 8mm spacer? Is this the general consensus of the thread?

Try BBS CH-R. They come in 8x18 ET40 and 9x18 ET44. Silver, titanium or black with a stripe. The 225/40 and 255/35 tires sit just right on them. I use a 3 mm in the front to make ET37. You actually don't need a spacer to clear anything. It's just that I wanted to keep the factory front/rear ET ratio and make the front more planted. Those wheels are not heavy, sufficiently strong and look great on your car. Not too expensive, either.
You may also want to look at HRE flow form wheels (they must have something similar).

[Transfer]

Personally I would tolerate a subtle poke vs using spacers. I've used spacers on a lot of cars and I think they always suck.

[peanutcracker1]

Those look great. I've been told black wouldn't be great on my Alpine white because they sort of just disappear in the wheel well - but the black seems to be my favorite out of those. I suppose the Titanium would work too? Would the 18x8 ET40 and 18x9 ET44 fit with no spacers? Will they poke at all? Will they clear suspension, even on the track? These might be the ones I end up going with as it seems to be the only size that doesn't require spacers? It seems that any of the 18x8.5, 18x9.5 setups require spacers or poke excessively.

Originally Posted by x233

Try BBS CH-R. They come in 8x18 ET40 and 9x18 ET44. Silver, titanium or black with a stripe. The 225/40 and 255/35 tires sit just right on them. I use a 3 mm in the front to make ET37. You actually don't need a spacer to clear anything. It's just that I wanted to keep the factory front/rear ET ratio and make the front more planted. Those wheels are not heavy, sufficiently strong and look great on your car. Not too expensive, either.
You may also want to look at HRE flow form wheels (they must have something similar).

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by x233

Ideal and safe:
8x18 ET38 front
9x18 ET45 rear

Alternatively:
8x18 ET37 front
9x18 ET44 rear

With tires: 225/40 front and 245/35 or 255/35 rear.

ps: don't go with wider wheels and/or more aggressive offsets unless your intention is to have heavier wheels, compromised grip with stretched tire, or the car to look goofy and have clearance issues.

So this will work with no issues spacers or any modifications???

Rims
8x18 ET38 front
9x18 ET45 rear

Width tires
225/40 front and 255/35 rear

Planning on getting vmr 710s

[x233]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

So this will work with no issues spacers or any modifications???

Rims
8x18 ET38 front
9x18 ET45 rear

Width tires
225/40 front and 255/35 rear

Planning on getting vmr 710s

Yes.