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      06-16-2015, 03:11 AM   #1
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Those little annoying imperfections...

There is no such thing as a perfect car (or anything created by humans, for that matter) - and so "imperfect" is the great M235i. I won't be talking about the ride and handling quality because this has been beaten to death already (like the lack of steering response etc.); instead I'll mention a couple of things that - even though not so "serious" - bug me during and after each longer trip in mine...

Well - about the "offset" driver's seat, causing my left leg to cross the left bolster rather than rest along it - I already had created a separate thread so won't be repeating myself; I will mention though that after a 7-hour drive yesterday, it made my left leg really aching

Another "small silly thing" that drives me nuts is the way BMW decided to save some $$$ (or did they just want to further differentiate the 2's interior from that of higher series, like the 5 I had and traded in for the M235) is the main 2 clocks illumination in the dash. In PL I'm obliged to use day lights, so my light switch is always in the Auto position - this way the car decides for itself when to switch from white day lights to red dash illumination. Once the head lights are on, everything seems OK - the main part of odo and tachometer are illuminated red. But when the car "thinks" daylights are still enough, the dashboard "composition" changes to white - with the caveat that only the lower (digital) portion is actually illuminated white, and even changes intensity according to the amount of ambient light. When the day is dark (overcast sky without sunshine), there are moments when I literally cannot read my speed or rpm, because - not being illuminated like they are in the 5-series, and with too little ambient light hitting them - they are simply as dark as $%^&. Why, BMW - how much did you save with this silly, ugly and dangerous design? Was it worth it?!!

The third little annoyance (still talking about the interior) is not 2-series specific; for some stupid reasons BMW moved the infotainment volume up/down buttons to the right arm of the steering wheel in all current models. This can really infuriate me sometimes...

OK, rant off - the M235i is such a pleasure to drive that I forgive the about. I'm curious what other users' opinions are, though.
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      06-16-2015, 04:36 AM   #3
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I am not a fan of the silly little coat hanger hooks. They appear to be designed to deliver my suit coat into a pile in the back seat during hard cornering.

And the gas tank needs to be a few gallons larger.

These are not dealbreakers.


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- No memorisation of the deactivated start-stop function
- No memorisation of the AC status
Really? Mine remembers those.
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      06-16-2015, 06:52 AM   #5
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I "HATE" the next/previous song scroll wheel on the right side of the steering wheel. The E8x/E9x steering wheel button layout was perfect IMHO. Yes I know, "first world problems" here. Other than that, not a single other complaint.
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      06-16-2015, 06:58 AM   #6
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I am not a fan of the silly little coat hanger hooks. They appear to be designed to deliver my suit coat into a pile in the back seat during hard cornering.

And the gas tank needs to be a few gallons larger.

These are not dealbreakers.

Really? Mine remembers those.
This --> "And the gas tank needs to be a few gallons larger."

Totally agree, about 10l more would be just about right.
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- No temp gauges
- No menu memorisation on the connected drive screen
- No memorisation of the drive mode
- No memorisation of the deactivated start-stop function
- No memorisation of the AC status

As you can see, I don't like that the car doesn't remember how it was the last time that I drove it.
My stop/start function is "memorized". It's been off since the day I drove off the lot.
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      06-16-2015, 09:42 AM   #8
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The third little annoyance (still talking about the interior) is not 2-series specific; for some stupid reasons BMW moved the infotainment volume up/down buttons to the right arm of the steering wheel in all current models. This can really infuriate me sometimes...
The volume control on the right makes no sense, just as easy to reach the volume knob on the dash. Also, I would prefer to handle the cruise control with my right hand.
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Huh?

A larger gas tank? C'mon. It's nearly 14 gallons. We're not all driving Suburbans here. The Zweier isn't even a GT car. IMHO, the gas tank is plenty large. Context, people ...

But I concur about the lack of a temp gauge, the coat hooks, the lack of last-use memory, and the wonky daytime-nighttime dash lighting, which is WAY too sensitive and doesn't allow for sensitivity adjustment like many other makes (I'm looking at you, Lexus) do. I keep my headlight switch at "off" during the daytime just for that reason -- and because I don't want my xenons firing up and self-leveling every time I go under a bridge.

Other big peeves:
- Lack of daytime gauge backlighting
- Lack of decent tone adjustment options on the stereo
- Lack of a decent-quality sound system overall (the HK is not quality in the 2er)
- Lack of power in the Hi-Fi stereo amplifier
- Lack of LED brake lights
- Lack of illumination for the visor mirrors
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      06-16-2015, 11:19 AM   #10
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I really wish the 2 series have the same ambient lighting as the 3-series that have the strip lights in the door panels.
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      06-16-2015, 11:26 AM   #11
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- No temp gauges
- No menu memorisation on the connected drive screen
- No memorisation of the drive mode
- No memorisation of the deactivated start-stop function
- No memorisation of the AC status

As you can see, I don't like that the car doesn't remember how it was the last time that I drove it.
This. The fact i have to shut the AC or Heat off everytime pisses me off
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This. The fact i have to shut the AC or Heat off everytime pisses me off
A $20 coding cable and watching a couple videos on how to code can take care of this. Coding the F series is actually pretty easy in my opinion.

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      06-16-2015, 12:35 PM   #13
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The third little annoyance (still talking about the interior) is not 2-series specific; for some stupid reasons BMW moved the infotainment volume up/down buttons to the right arm of the steering wheel in all current models. This can really infuriate me sometimes...

OK, rant off - the M235i is such a pleasure to drive that I forgive the about. I'm curious what other users' opinions are, though.
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The volume control on the right makes no sense, just as easy to reach the volume knob on the dash. Also, I would prefer to handle the cruise control with my right hand.
The volume adjustment on the steering wheel bugs me every day I drive the car. As TBro2002 pointed out, it's ergonomically stupid, so more than just an annoyance. Nobody needs to access the cruise control with one hand and shifter with the other - operating one excludes the other. Volume control on the other hand...

Also
- lack of a real digital speedometer (coding the teeny one doesn't count)
- lack of temp gauges
- excessive throw at the bottom end of the clutch (fixed with a clutch stop)
- center console lid is right where my elbow wants to be while shifting
- the door arm rest is too high which makes working the window switches awkward
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      06-16-2015, 12:47 PM   #14
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No grab handles in the roof
AC not being remembered
iDrive not liking my iPhone 6+ that much (just disappears randomly from the bluetooth and the only way to get it working again is to shut the car off and on again)
How the taillights catch TONS of debris and get disgusting because of their design

I'm sure there's more little things but I don't remember at the moment.
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      06-16-2015, 01:16 PM   #15
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No grab handles in the roof
^^ This!!!
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      06-16-2015, 01:37 PM   #16
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How about the door pulls. For me, at least, they are way too far forward. Especially with a door this big. Wind will catch this door one time too many, I'm sure.
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      06-16-2015, 02:34 PM   #17
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I think the fuel flap is hysterically oversized. And I wish the audio controls were on the left side of the wheel not the right.
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      06-16-2015, 07:54 PM   #18
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Don't get all the complaining about the volume buttons on the right hand side of the steering wheel.... It's the "right" side in my opinion.

The last few cars I've owned has been on the right hand side, my mates 1M is on the left hand side and its weird
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      06-16-2015, 09:13 PM   #19
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I think the fuel flap is hysterically oversized. And I wish the audio controls were on the left side of the wheel not the right.
This^
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      06-16-2015, 11:22 PM   #21
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- No temp gauges

- No memorisation of the deactivated start-stop function


As you can see, I don't like that the car doesn't remember how it was the last time that I drove it.
My car remembers this...
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Oh the button to turn of stop/start right on top of the ignition button!! Turned off my car so many times accidentally while driving so dangerous!!!

Gear lever up and down shift is the wrong way!!! Forward should be up and downward should be down!!!
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