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      03-29-2017, 02:40 PM   #23
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Also i think 135i is lighter too
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      03-29-2017, 03:11 PM   #24
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Also i think 135i is lighter too
6MT to 6MT and DCT to 8AT, the 135i and 135is are about 50lbs lighter than the M235 RWD.
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      03-29-2017, 03:30 PM   #25
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I think the rigidity and feel of the 135 vs the 235 is giving you the impression that it's more "aggressive". That might simply be the 2er being newer and more "compliant" but also offering same or better performance.

As said, pads are everything. There is a "M Performance" pad option through BMW I believe, maybe you could ask the service dept to swap them out?
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      03-29-2017, 05:13 PM   #26
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This thread makes my brain hurt; As do most others here the past couple weeks.

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      03-30-2017, 11:52 AM   #27
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Nothing is stupid about this thread
Its true brakes feel better on 135i
The pedal pushed until end wont give u that firm grip
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      03-30-2017, 06:30 PM   #28
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Nothing is stupid about this thread
Its true brakes feel better on 135i
The pedal pushed until end wont give u that firm grip
Feel is subjective. The performance is the same. Again, if you want to improve your braking performance, you'll need better tires.
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      03-30-2017, 09:37 PM   #29
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Improve braking with tires?
When our car comes with the best tires in the industry the michelin super sports....there is like nothing better lolll

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      03-30-2017, 10:23 PM   #30
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Improve braking with tires?
When our car comes with the best tires in the industry the michelin super sports....there is like nothing better lolll
The Michelin Pilot Super Sport (PSS) is probably the best all round road tyre, but there are several tyres on the market that have better dry grip. The PSS is only in the Maximum performance class for summer tyres, the Extreme class has measurably better grip at the expense of noise and wear rates. Typically at autoX events you can determine the best gripping road tyre from what is used in the stock classes. The past couple of years the Bridgestone RE-71R has been that tyre.

On the track I used Michelin PSS and Dunlop Direzza Star Spec tyres on my Z4M. The PSS went off after a couple of laps and felt quite greasy when hot also wearing quite quickly, the Direzzas took the heat a lot better and gripped significantly better than the PSS once hot.

The PSS is a great summer tyre, but not the grippiest.
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      03-30-2017, 11:08 PM   #31
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Improve braking with tires?
When our car comes with the best tires in the industry the michelin super sports....there is like nothing better lolll
There are plenty better than MPSS, but overall the MPSS are great performers and a really good "all arounder'. And yes, better tires mean better braking performance. We've reached the point where brakes are not the limiting factor for 60-0 performance, tires are. The brakes easily outperform the grip of the tires. Case in point, put some all season tires on the car. You're 60-0 will gain anywhere from 5-10 ft. More grip, shorter braking.
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      03-30-2017, 11:39 PM   #32
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Nothing is stupid about this thread
Its true brakes feel better on 135i
The pedal pushed until end wont give u that firm grip
More aggressive street pads (expect way more dust)
Braided brake lines

That will improve pedal feel and inital bite a bit. But like everyone is saying, the 135 brakes do not perform better, they might just have more initial bite. I've had both types of setup and I prefer the M235's pedal because I can modulate it better under threshold braking.

Have you tried re-bedding the brakes like I suggested? It's free and I think you may be surprised at the difference in initial bite and feel.
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      03-31-2017, 07:38 AM   #33
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Xutjet i will try it
Even if it seem like it will kill my brakes loll
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