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It may look like a "duck" but the GT350 is not walking or talking like any of the other ducks. With this logic a 228i 235i and m2 are the same duck.
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Ummm, that's what Mericans do. Doesn't matter if it's a $2k ricer or $250k Lambo, Mericans are going to mod the hell out of whatever to produce as much power as their wallets can afford.
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Not all of us, just the guys that think drag racing is the standard by which your penis is measured.
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Better head to your Ford dealer now if you want a GT350/R. It's going to be limited to 137 and out of that number the R is limited to 37....for the first year that is.
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So the output is limited for the model year 2015, but not calendar year 2015. Still may be a poplar car that is difficult to get, not just 137 units difficult. |
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if the m2 starts @ $50k maybe i should wait for the freakin' 2 series (lol). i was expecting $55k+ but it may be in the low $50s as i think about it.. hmmm... if it approaches 60 grand i'm keeping my m3.
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Some may mod it for drag racing others for drift, and then some for outright speed or track, and others for bragging. Furthermore, they already have a special Mustang for drag racing. The idiots who are wondering if you can put a supercharger on it are the same ones who probably can't handle the car in the first place. Remember, American (Southern California) is where modding (hot rodding) began. And all these American companies from Dinan for BMW, Renntech for Mercedes, Underground Racing for exotics, Hennessey for Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc and Alpha Performance for the GTR have clients that pay a ton. So there is a market. Then you have Brabus and G Power in Germany, and a host of Japanese tuners...bottom line is people want "Moah Powah!!!" And there are people who provide it. Let's not lump all those people with negative stereotypes, because it's a poor reflection. |
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05-18-2015, 07:05 AM | #56 |
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Take at look at Ferrarichat. They talk more about price of the car they have, than actually enjoying the car. Enzo Ferrari would be disgusted. Or would he? Back in the day, he didn't care too much for the customers.
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I would actually say it's the other way around, my security is not based on the amount of HP I have under the hood, but apparently yours bolstered by doubting others security. |
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Listen, if you guys spec an M2 to mid 60's, that's your own damn fault. No one is putting a gun to your head and saying you should tick every single option possible. And if you want those options, pay for it and shut up. That's how the Germans have played the game for decades, nothing new here.
For me personally, it's no different than buying an M3/4. At mid 60's, the M3 makes perfect sense to me. At $90k, the car makes 0 sense. Same with the M2. At low 50's, brilliant choice. At say $65k, not so much.
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I don't buy a car based purely on specifications. I am a simpleton in that regard in any case seeing as I want a "stripped" ///M2 to keep weight and price to a minimum but still get the maximum enjoyment from the car.
I don't need Nav I don't need electric seats I don't need leather seats even Definitely don't need Heads up or comfort access (although the latter is nice, I will admit that much), don't need heated seats (Thank you South Africa), definitely don't need to spend an additional $5,000-8,000 on options. I will keep my spec basic. So if the basic spec is anywhere between $50-53k, I will be happy. |
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You feel the need to make a statement about those who mod in general is wrapped up in the size of their "piston". Just like those people who say that getting an exotic is the same. There are people who mod the cars for the track. Would your statement apply to them? If my security was based on doubting others, I would be a very secure man in this World of Insecurity. |
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This is becoming one of those threads where I have to keep reminding myself what the actual OP topic was...
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Back off topic for a moment... as for mods, many enthusiasts like to mod their cars. Period. Some of us do it for the track, others for light-to-light bragging rights, and still others just for show. To each their own (and this enthusiast forum seems an odd place to call people out for this). There are some basic mods that I will ALWAYS do to my cars... coding to remove goofy disclaimers on the nav screen, ugly orange reflectors and glowing front turn indicators, opening up intake and exhaust for better engine breathing/sound, etc. To me, these types of mods are in keeping with the original design philosophy of the car before it was compromised for the US market for various reasons. Depending on the car, there are certainly other mods I would consider as well, but the above are a must for me.
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Btw, I'm not a coding guru by any means, but I was told that you could program these newer cars to have blutooth. It's already pre-wired on all cars. There, this thread has been useful. I potentially just saved you $500 P.S. To go off topic again... where are these test cars? You'd think the Frankfurt auto show is only 4 months away, we'd be seeing way more of them. Unless they are done with testing already?
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My concern is how some of the option packages stack up... e.g. On the 228i, you can stick with manual seats, but if you want lumbar support and/or a universal garage door opener (both of which I like), you need the $4k premium package - which includes a bunch of crap. And a sunroof. On an M3, if you want HUD, you need to opt for the $4300 Executive package, including such bullshit as retractable headlight washers. Fail. Edit... I wonder if universal garage door openers can be retrofitted. Hmmmm...
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I would like comfort access because I gained real utility when I had it on my 135i. Not having to take your keys out of your pocket has some nice advantages. Bluetooth/USB and HK are also nice because music definitely enhances my driving experience. I just hope they don't lump something like CA in the executive package because I have no interest in a heated steering wheel, rear view cameras, headlight washers, or parking sensors. These are things I don't want to pay for... though I wouldn't be against a HUD.
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