[Manbnda]

As I said before, BMW has the opportunity to make an EPIC car with the M2.
But, based on the conservative approach with the M3/M4 Concept VS Production, I think BMW is not even going to put CFR on this car... I hope I'm wrong.

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

Hoping that there will be some cool exposed pop-rivets.
For that hard-core racy look.

You can see a line of rivets under the rear fender cammo in this shot

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by Venom

Thank you for the post Artemis. I hope it looks like this render with the boxy styled frame!

I have been off the forums for a while, can someone enlighten me as to where this http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...8&d=1423009834 render is from?

That is not a render for the M2 specifically, that is just a CGI image of the Vision GT6 concept, which we have shown today will be represented in the M2 more than initially thought

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

That is not a render for the M2 specifically, that is just a CGI image of the Vision GT6 concept, which we have shown today will be represented in the M2 more than initially thought

Thank you Adem. That's interesting. Well it is gorgeous compared to the current series. I hope we see something like this in the Z2(or whatever the joint project with Toyota will be called) and M2.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Here's what SCOTT26 commented earlier this week:

Yep, I commented on that post too... I think it's pretty much a done deal that the M2 is getting M3/M4 suspension/geometry, so that kind of establishes the point about the increase in track width being even greater for 235i-to-M2 than it was from 135i-to-1M. It just looks as though they're shaping/radiusing the fenders differently.

[ORIGIN M.]

Awesome work

Mods make this a sticky!

[SCOTT26]

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

[SCOTT26]

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

[135]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

This news was so good that Scott had to post it twice!

I am starting to believe and hope.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

OMG!

[ORIGIN M.]

Throw us a large bone here, was that the production car with the camo reduced, or a toy of ///M's?

Double Bubble CF Roof...??

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car it's an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form in the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car.
It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars. It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress". Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated".

Nah SCOTT26 , the (manual only!) Porsche Cayman GT4 has no carbon fiber roof (and no vertical red rear reflectors either).

Seriously: M2 GTS, M2 CSL or M2 Racing: bring it on (preferably with gunmetal wheels to distinguish it from the 'regular' models) !

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Venom

Thank you for the post Artemis. I hope it looks like this render with the boxy styled frame!
I have been off the forums for a while, can someone enlighten me as to where this http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...8&d=1423009834 render is from?

Here you go: BMW Vision Concept GT6. It inspired to some extent the ///M division for shaping/tweaking the M2 design (though in a toned/watered down fashion).
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=985493

[seanq]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

This is quite interesting, however it's also an indication that the 2016 model will not have this elements.
That's an interesting business strategy, but I'd rather have all the packages/upgrades available at the launch (like a certain German competitor of yours) even if this packages are priced at a premium.
Anyway, your insights and comment are very helpful Scott, thank you for taking the time and feed us some info.

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

So where are the pics. Please Scott hook us up, we need our crack!!

[UpNcOmINg!]

Carbon roof and wing. Hmmm. Intriguing. Hoping to see at very least the carbon roof on production models.

Wing maybe ///M Performance?

[W///]

Originally Posted by seanq

This is quite interesting, however it's also an indication that the 2016 model will not have this elements.
That's an interesting business strategy, but I'd rather have all the packages/upgrades available at the launch (like a certain German competitor of yours) even if this packages are priced at a premium.
Anyway, your insights and comment are very helpful Scott, thank you for taking the time and feed us some info.

+1. I'd take that info with a giant spoon of salt. That sounds more like an M235i Racing Part 2, than a production M2. Either that, or an M2 CSL, which the US won't get anyway (nor do I want to pay for).

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just seen an interesting car its an M2 but has the widened aerodynamic kit of the Vision GT but in more production form In the same width as the M235i Racing. There was a Carbon Roof on this car .

It reminds me of the old 2002/E9/E21 racing cars . It does have a rear wing. This could be a proposal for "Further Progress" . Or Motorsport purpose but it was more "Street Orientated" .

Pics or it didn't happen.

Maybe they're getting those babies ready for Geneva.

[Adem1534]

That's great news to hear from Scott.

In other news. I have a new observation that I put some work into this morning.
It's very exciting.

I will write it up and post it when I have the time. It may take a while to compose.

What I have to say should make you all very, very happy about the shape/sculpting of the rear fender. BMW has been fooling us in that regard.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

That's great news to hear from Scott.

In other news. I have a new observation that I put some work into this morning.
It's very exciting.

I will write it up and post it when I have the time. It may take a while to compose.

What I have to say should make you all very, very happy about the shape/sculpting of the rear fender. BMW has been fooling us in that regard.

Oh I'm looking forwards to your findings...

[Bamowe]

Scott come on. That hurts!

Since the E46 M3 I'am waiting for an M Car that I like. I can not wait anymore.

[Adem1534]

Hello everyone, thanks for taking a look at this. I spent some time analyzing the area in front of the rear fender, where the rear intake vent is located on the Vision GT6 car. Make sure to read the text in between the images to follow along!

First, I am posting a comment that SCOTT26 had made about the the area in front of the rear fenders on the M2, which generated a small discussion: There will be no vent. This was the comment:



What is meant by "push the vent into the body work"? I believe he is saying to eliminate the vent: but without simply making that area flat plane.

Lets first look at this great render by user Harold Wood, which exhibits rear fenders very similar to those at first glance on the M2 test mules.



Comparing this to the Mule shots, the rear fender seems accurate.



To further understand what's going on, I am going to back up to the M2's little brother, the M235i. In these images, I will trace the character lines that are significantly apparent.

First, white M235i in studio-like lighting:





Second, an Estoril Blue M235i in natural lighting:





As you may have noticed, I am pointing out lines that are strikingly similar to those found on the Vision GT6 concept.

As I was doing this, it shocked me how similar the lines of "mellow" M235i and the beastly Vision GT6 concept are.





On this second set of Vision GT6 images, I am going to point out a line above the one which runs along the vent, that has been discussed in multiple threads as seen on an M2 prototype.

Don't think too hard about this line for now, it will come back up shortly.





Now, take a look at this image, which will show the same angled, rear 3/4s view of the M2 and Vision GT6 Concept. (This was snipped from Artemis' summary post of our rear vent discovery - thank you Artemis).



Now, what I am going to show you is how the specific design elements morph with the change in engineering purpose, while leaving the design language the same.

The Vision GT6 Concept car is a beast. It's purpose is to go fast. It's only in a video game, but essentially, the engineering principles are the same.

One of the significant differences between a car like the GT6 and it's counterpart street car is its ride height.

The distance between the top of the wheel arch and the bottom of the rear quarter window of a race oriented car is significantly less than that of a public road counterpart.

See the below image, which includes text.



Now, using one of Artemis photo-altered images, I will be able to show you parallel lines across the two cars. Note that the corresponding lines are color coded. In the last image, I'm pulling together all the lines that have been designated through the camo.

And the point of the whole analysis: The M2 will (imo) have a fender flare that is unique, identical to neither the M3 nor M4.

The area in front of the wheel arch is sunken, and hidden very well by the camo...

Or as member ///W had theorized, artificial panels: hiding the complex curvature of what lies underneath.

Here are dimples that may suggest ///W's theory of panels.



But lets see through those panels!





It is what I call a "trampoline" effect, due to the lack of a better term.



Representing the lines on a clear shot of an M2 prototype, the whole car begins to become clear.





And before I show my last image, I'd like to bring another one back up.

That white M235i from the beginning.

It should all begin to make sense in your mind -



And finally, last but not least...

What I believe was a fundamental drawing for a street based M2.





The M2 is an M235i on SERIOUS steroids... or a Vision GT6 car that hasn't hit the gym in a couple weeks, but will still out run a Mercedes... just kidding (kind of, maybe)

Thanks for reading... praying for Geneva.

Cheers