[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Gentlemen, as someone said: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." Otherwise said, each individual should be allowed to pursue his or her strengths; in addition, a weakness in some area should not induce feelings of debilitating inferiority.

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tell it to the 235 owners, mate...not me. it's the laaaast thing I'd like to talk about! haha

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

tell it to the 235 owners, mate...not me. it's the laaaast thing I'd like to talk about! haha

This thread is about colors.

So getting on topic again by pulling the 'white and black diagonal halves' flag.

[Bemo]

Yes to vivid colors!!!!
This car will be the "young punk" of the ///M line-up, small and obnoxious, out to prove itself to its larger siblings. As such the color scheme should be in line with its personality.
Here's to hoping that we get a proper "red headed child!"
Well, some shade of orange will do, too.
Get ready for special editions and more unique colors towards the end of its lifecycle.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Bemo

Yes to vivid colors!!!!
This car will be the "young punk" of the ///M line-up, small and obnoxious, out to prove itself to its larger siblings. As such the color scheme should be in line with its personality.
Here's to hoping that we get a proper "red headed child!"
Well, some shade of orange will do, too.
Get ready for special editions and more unique colors towards the end of its lifecycle.

Unlike the M2, the M4 GTS (revealed this August at Pebble Beach) might get orange paint.

Remember the E92 M3 GTS: with the exception of two cars painted Alpine White III (300), the M3 GTS was offered exclusively in Fire Orange II (U94) and this color even extended to the motor's valve cover).

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

They have new specific M colours developed but in no way have they confirmed what models they will be applied to. As for Specific M colours that have been created there is a sort of burnt Orange metallic a sort of Kyalami Orange remix, a new Red colour kind of like a much brighter Sedona Red and yes a new Blue.
Despite being the launch colour for the 135i Coupe the order rate was not successful hence why it was replaced at the LCi.
What cars they will come with is anybody's guess at this time.
After the new BMW X5M and X6M that will be launched later this year. The M2 will be the next all-new M car. There will be a hiatus until the next M5 but in between there will be the M4 GTS which could use the Orange colour as a nod to Fire Orange.

[fuddman]

Are you willing to pay more for the base price of the car if additional colors were added to the four now offered?
There are, IMO, pricing consequences if BMW were to add more colors. I suspect the same would be true if one of the existing 4 was replaced with something "more acceptable."
At its core, it has to do with the speed of the assembly line over the production period. Theoretically (admitedly mine), the assembly line produces most cars when only one color is available. Adding colors requires equipment adjustments which stop (or slow) the assembly line. So, fewer cars are produced over the fixed production period. Fewer cars means profits are lower. To keep profit constant, these fewer cars would have to be priced higher.
The same effect happens, IMO, if BMW was to replace one of the 4 with some other color. Gray seems to be the least popular of the 4 and, therefore a likely candidate for replacement. But, grey, black and white cars are, by far, what most people buy. Replace any one of the those and, I would guess, the likelihood of selling fewer cars goes up. Which,again, affects profit.
It might be useful to conduct a pole which asks: How much more are you willing to pay for the base M2 if BMW added, say, three more color options?
Assume that the additional colors would yield a color you consider reasonably close to your preference.
Just something to do while waiting for the next reveal.

[JohnNC-M2CS]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Are you willing to pay more for the base price of the car if additional colors were added to the four now offered?
There are, IMO, pricing consequences if BMW were to add more colors. I suspect the same would be true if one of the existing 4 was replaced with something "more acceptable."
At its core, it has to do with the speed of the assembly line over the production period. Theoretically (admitedly mine), the assembly line produces most cars when only one color is available. Adding colors requires equipment adjustments which stop (or slow) the assembly line. So, fewer cars are produced over the fixed production period. Fewer cars means profits are lower. To keep profit constant, these fewer cars would have to be priced higher.
The same effect happens, IMO, if BMW was to replace one of the 4 with some other color. Gray seems to be the least popular of the 4 and, therefore a likely candidate for replacement. But, grey, black and white cars are, by far, what most people buy. Replace any one of the those and, I would guess, the likelihood of selling fewer cars goes up. Which,again, affects profit.
It might be useful to conduct a pole which asks: How much more are you willing to pay for the base M2 if BMW added, say, three more color options?
Assume that the additional colors would yield a color you consider reasonably close to your preference.
Just something to do while waiting for the next reveal.

I really want the car and I really don't like the current color selection so I'd be willing to pay $1000 - $1,500 or more depending on how much I liked the additional colors. For me this car is more than a track day car so I want a beautiful appearance to go along with great performance.

[Steven1077]

I can live with AW or MG

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Bemo

Here's to hoping that we get a proper "red headed child!"
Well, some shade of orange will do, too.

Well, obtaining that color on the M2 will not be impossible, but you will need to push the brakes hard.

[Bemo]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Well, obtaining that color on the M2 will not be impossible, but you will need to push the brakes hard.

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Great picture, Artemis!



Brake cooking classes, in the Nurburgring kitchen!

[UpNcOmINg!]

i would love a hark back to the palette's of yesteryear.
Inka Orange on this car, full carbon trim.
I will never sell.
Piece #1 of my garage

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by UpNcOmINg!

i would love a hark back to the palette's of yesteryear.
Inka Orange on this car, full carbon trim.
I will never sell.
Piece #1 of my garage

Inka Orange (BMW paint code 022): you know your classics.

[UpNcOmINg!]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Inka Orange (BMW paint code 022): you know your classics.

Such a great car, such an amazing colour, how can it not be etched in my young memory!?
Now imagine that colour gracing the curves on the F87, a slight drop, Akra exhaust and depending on the stock wheels, maybe some ADVs or BBS FI-Rs with some nice concave.
Or just keep it stock, you know, whatever

[///Mangler]

Henna.

T

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

The 1M and M2 couldn't be more different from a "lead into" point of view. People were hoping, begging, pleading with BMW to make the 1M. Hell, they even flew 10 people over to see the car in production form before it was officially unveiled to the world. M3 Adjuster was one of the lucky guys who got to go. They had the fenders stapled on at first - they didn't even bother with fancy camo in the beginning. Aka, no one gave a shit about color, just that they decided to make it.

Originally Posted by W///

Sorry, I still don't buy it Artemis.
I completely understand only having 1 contrast stitching interior. I understand the 1M having same wheels as M3 ZCP, no CF roof, no CF trunk, no power dome, no bespoke engine...
But I don't see how offering 3 colors saves money significantly. The robots that paint these cars certainly don't care when they are already painting 128i and 135i in other colors.

I was one of the members in the group who got to see the 1M. We did ask one of the engineers why the 1M was limited to the three colors. I recall the answer being the German TUV regulations required each production paint color needing to go through testing due to the 1M having unique bodywork compared to the regular E82. If that really is the case, then there was a cost savings by using the limited palette.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

I was one of the members in the group who got to see the 1M. We did ask one of the engineers why the 1M was limited to the three colors. I recall the answer being the German TUV regulations required each production paint color needing to go through testing due to the 1M having unique bodywork compared to the regular E82. If that really is the case, then there was a cost savings by using the limited palette.

Ahhhh, yes, I remember that you were there too. Lucky man.

And if it is really related to costs, I can see why they do it - I think it's also another way to distinguish the car from a rarity standpoint. Just not that many colors or options - not that I agree, but I can understand.

LeMans Blue would look sick on this thing - that's one of my all time favorite BMW colors and I loved having it on my second 135.

[BMWCAT]

I just don't really get why bmw Lately become very conservative with M related color... Really makes a lot of people doing Individual.
For example. F30 Msport Estoril blue II had been drop for now.. With red as the only bright color
F10 M sport you no longer can choose imperial Blue ( not bright, but still, what's left are different shade of grey, white, silver)
F80 so far the Sakhir Orange was dropped, unless you like Austin Yellow... The only vibrant color would be YMB..

[OrangeCrush]

In some pictures LBB looks like a modern metallic version of laguna seca blue. Am I off base here? If not, I think it would look great on the M2.

[W///]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

In some pictures LBB looks like a modern metallic version of laguna seca blue. Am I off base here? If not, I think it would look great on the M2.

Kind of. LBB is much lighter than LSB in all conditions, and it's also much more metallic. LBB also changes completely depending on the light, whereas LSB doesn't as much. For sure they are both quite polarizing colors of their generations though.

[KevinM]

I'll join the minority here. As long as I can order white or a shade of gray, I'm good. I enjoy subtle colors. That said, I totally understand why most want some more vibrant colors that stand out!

[stuckinoc]

Happy to at least see some nice body wrap possibilities out there these days.

[abp689]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Gentlemen, as someone said: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." Otherwise said, each individual should be allowed to pursue his or her strengths; in addition, a weakness in some area should not induce feelings of debilitating inferiority.

For more M235i related discussions about ///M existentialism, 16 ///M badges and tree-climbing capabilities of fish, feel free to post in this dedicated thread: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1105293

Thank you.

16 badges, is that all? O, right, it's not a real M car. A real M car should have at least 60 M logos.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-num...is-staggering/

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by W///

Let's set a few things straight. I call BS on lack of color choices on the 1M being due to short time frame. The cars go down the line the exact same way as a 128i and 135i. Surely it's not that much work to add at least the same colors as those cars if BMW felt like it.

Secondly, Valencia Orange is hardly a color that absolutely everyone will love. I know my parents wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. I didn't follow the launch of the 1M closely, but were you guys spending this much time talking about the lack of color choices on the 1M?

Just because you aren't a fan of this so called cocktail blue is one thing. But I don't see how marketing and all that other stuff has anything to do with how good the car will be. Just like how it's irrelevant that you can get even LESS colors with the 1M.

My 2 cents

OMG yes there were many color threads when the 1M came out. Actually there were many more! The reason there are not as many right now is because the BLUE birds have been assuaged.

There were several different 1M threads and polls about " why isn't there a blue" , " what would the best color blue be , " , " BMW should bring back (name your favorite ) blue , and of course the " I won't buy it if it's not made in blue " etc.

The blue birds were much more vociferous than people who wanted Red. Fans of reas sorta were happy with Valencia.

Of course there was no gray or silver at all, so it's amusing to see people in this thread up in arms over Donington Gray not being available and Mineral gray being the color.