I kind of hate the speedo on the 2-series...

FoxCrane · 05-25-2014, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BenWM

I think the US should just covert to the metric system, LOL

Definitely.

Canaletto · 05-25-2014, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pruettfan

OP, I think this is a case where you are used to the Focus speedo and are transitioning to the 2 series not so much a case of one being better than the other.

Hmm, no. I think that the 2 series is just pretty clearly an inferior design.

A speedo should make it easy to see your exact speed at any given moment. This one doesn't do that.

Kind of surprising from zee Germans.

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Originally Posted by pruettfan

Recently I was given a work car to drive (2014 Malibu) it is not a great car by any stretch but I do like the fact that you can use the center display to show a digital speed. I am surprised BMW didn't do this as it would not really take much to let that be a user defined configuration

Yes, digital speedos really are the way to go. I loved the one on my RX-8.

valentinbmw · 05-25-2014, 09:03 AM

why most cars in the states have both MPH and KPH on the speedos?

ba83 · 05-25-2014, 09:52 AM

Its essential to have a digital readout and have a big rpm.

Also some of these ford and gm shit boxes have 160mph speedos on a 180hp car, is there a need for that

Broose · 05-25-2014, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Canaletto

I don't think expecting the speedometer to actually display the correct speed is too much to ask.

The German speedometers are known to be off by about 7 percent. They intentionally overstate the speed so they can't be held responsible for someone's speeding. I found several free I phone apps that use GPS to give true speed. Use one a couple times and you'll know how far off your speedo is.

Meeni · 05-26-2014, 04:15 AM

Speedo is also off because of varying wheel diameter with tire wear.

Anyway, I like the BMW Speedo, it is clean and easy to read. The Ford thing is busy and hard to glance over with too many numbers of differing fonts, lots of brain power spent on deciphering all these useless details.

dmboone25 · 05-26-2014, 05:46 PM

I think it's a litt harder to read than some of the speedos I have had in other BMWs - but I have gotten used to it pretty quickly.

What is this about coding in the digital speedo ???

Canaletto · 05-26-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by valentinbmw

why most cars in the states have both MPH and KPH on the speedos?

I believe it's in case you want to drive your car in Canada, where the speeds are measure in KPH.

flyga3 · 07-31-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Canaletto

I believe it's in case you want to drive your car in Canada, where the speeds are measure in KPH.

Or Mexico.

pikcachu · 07-31-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Dunno. If the digital readout is pulling actual speed that the odometer would use to calculate mileage, then it should read differently.

The dial itself is getting an electronic readout of speed which is programmed to read faster than it really is.

You can code it to remove the correction....to display real speed

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pikcachu · 07-31-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flyga3

Or Mexico.

ya... that's why

Daddycat · 07-31-2014, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramos

I hate how it has KM/h as well as MPH. Ideally for the US, it should just be MPH in 10 MPH increments

Good God, where have you been? Speedos in the US have had mph/kph since when, the early 80's?

Daddycat · 07-31-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by valentinbmw

why most cars in the states have both MPH and KPH on the speedos?

Dates back to the late 70s/early 80s when the powers that be decided America should try to go to the metric system. Notice many baseball stadiums outfield walls are marked in feet and meters, too? Another failed experiment. Most of the world is metric--we're the oddballs...

Daddycat · 07-31-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JJS

No, not at all. Just curious about how happy 2-series owners are.

I'm very happy.

Maybe even delusional because there don't appear to be many happy owners on this forum. Everyone seems to have some sort of gripe...didn't anyone research/test drive before buying??? Or did I get the only good one?

flyga3 · 07-31-2014, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddycat

Dates back to the late 70s/early 80s when the powers that be decided America should try to go to the metric system. Notice many baseball stadiums outfield walls are marked in feet and meters, too? Another failed experiment. Most of the world is metric--we're the oddballs...

Yup! We are 1 of 3 countries left in the world that refuse to adopt SI. I guess we have something in common with Burma and Liberia for some reason.

Imagine how easier and better things would be for us if we did. (kids math grades, build/mfg quality, 1-set of tools in the garage, a speedo with only 1-set of markings...)

david.orr · 08-01-2014, 01:54 AM

There are already 2 threads of dislikes defects nitpicks etc. The more we look for them or read about them, the more faults we tend to notice in our own cars. Don't look too hard for perfection and just drive it hard. It is after all an assembly of parts designed and built to meet most requirements and not all requirements. Enjoy it!

mmmmm235i · 08-01-2014, 02:48 AM

Personally I like the clean look without the clutter of so many numbers. For me it is not difficult to estimate the speed with a quick glance. I have the digital speedo coded and as far as I know it shows actual speed, slightly different from the speedo (at least it was on my e90).

Gaviin · 08-01-2014, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

You can code it to remove the correction....to display real speed

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You're saying there's a way to code it so the analog speedometer shows actual speed instead of the default inflated speed? If so, I want.

hans007 · 08-01-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by basiluf

It's the standard BMW speedometer design. I thought the A5/S5 has the worst speedometer design.

when i had an A4, i could just leave the little LCD in between the tach and speedo on the digital speedo mode.

I wish BMW had that on the little info LCD as an option. its one thing i miss about my audi (everything else i'd say was worse... haha)

pikcachu · 08-01-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaviin

You're saying there's a way to code it so the analog speedometer shows actual speed instead of the default inflated speed? If so, I want.

ya the code does

"BC calculation with the speedometer curve - correction for analog / Head up display speed - disabling those corrections , you will be able to see the real speed. "

mazerrackham · 08-01-2014, 10:20 AM

The M235i cluster is rather disappointing for a luxury car.

m1cism · 08-01-2014, 10:38 AM

I agree with OP that the tick marks are not so useful in the U.S.

However, the digital speedo coding helps A LOT. I have the same problem that I cannot see the top of my speedo because of the steering wheel.

That being said, I am not a fan of the digital gauges that most car manufacturers are aiming towards (probably BMW eventually too)

Something about the lighting and authenticity of the BMW clusters are awesome to me. I don't mind and info screen, but some manufacturers are going completely digital and it seems a bit tacky.

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Meeni Gateropode 329 Rep 2,848 Posts Drives: BMW 330i 06 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: TN iTrader: (0)	Speedo is also off because of varying wheel diameter with tire wear. Anyway, I like the BMW Speedo, it is clean and easy to read. The Ford thing is busy and hard to glance over with too many numbers of differing fonts, lots of brain power spent on deciphering all these useless details.
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mmmmm235i Captain 104 Rep 835 Posts Drives: 440xi GC Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NY -> CO iTrader: (12)	Personally I like the clean look without the clutter of so many numbers. For me it is not difficult to estimate the speed with a quick glance. I have the digital speedo coded and as far as I know it shows actual speed, slightly different from the speedo (at least it was on my e90). __________________ 2020 X3M Comp., Alpine White on Black/Beige RETIRED: 2018 440xi GC, Carbon Black on Black/Blue 2014 M235i Black on Black, DINAN Stage 2
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m1cism Enlisted Member 1 Rep 40 Posts Drives: BMW 228i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I agree with OP that the tick marks are not so useful in the U.S. However, the digital speedo coding helps A LOT. I have the same problem that I cannot see the top of my speedo because of the steering wheel. That being said, I am not a fan of the digital gauges that most car manufacturers are aiming towards (probably BMW eventually too) Something about the lighting and authenticity of the BMW clusters are awesome to me. I don't mind and info screen, but some manufacturers are going completely digital and it seems a bit tacky.
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