Vorshlag's prototype F22 camber plate - ready for testing

HP Autosport · 01-31-2016, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud IX

What is the ETA and projected price?

I think we are a few months out. Perhaps Vorshlag will chime in with a projected price.

Liquidpaper · 02-03-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autosport

I think we are a few months out. Perhaps Vorshlag will chime in with a projected price.

I'm interested. Sub'd.

ocN55 · 02-07-2016, 12:32 AM

I noticed that these will be the same part for F8x cars. Not looking forward to the M tax carrying over to the f22

Regardless, I think this will be the winner of the segment.

HP Autosport · 02-07-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ocN55

I noticed that these will be the same part for F8x cars. Not looking forward to the M tax carrying over to the f22

Regardless, I think this will be the winner of the segment.

Well, in the past Vorshlag plates have been the same price for M or none M. The only added cost would be for the stock profile springs(none standard upper perch).

modernbeat · 02-10-2016, 10:37 AM

I'm not sure the F22/F30 main plate will work for the F8x cars. Though the strut tower is the same, there are a few extra parts bolted to the top mount that don't exist in the non-M3/M4 cars. There is a huge girdle that spans the width of the car like a strut tower brace, but much more significant.

Below is the top of the M3 strut mount. Note the three bolts attaching the strut mount to the strut tower brace that is also tied into the fender bolt at 11 o'clock in the photo.

Below is the top of an M235i/F22. You can see that the minimal strut tower brace only attaches to the strut mounting top at a single bolt.

These are the cars that have similar compatibility to the F22 and will either work out of the box, or with minimal changes like spring perch diameter for the MINIs, or additional or fewer perimeter bolts for some other models.

• 1' F20
• 1' F21
• 2' F22
• 2' F23
• 2' F45 Active Tourer
• 3' F30
• 3' F31
• 3' F34 GT
• 3' F35
• 4' F32
• 4' F33
• 4' F36
• X1 F48
• MINI F55
• MINI F56

HP Autosport · 02-10-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by modernbeat

I'm not sure the F22/F30 main plate will work for the F8x cars. Though the strut tower is the same, there are a few extra parts bolted to the top mount that don't exist in the non-M3/M4 cars. There is a huge girdle that spans the width of the car like a strut tower brace, but much more significant.

Below is the top of the M3 strut mount. Note the three bolts attaching the strut mount to the strut tower brace that is also tied into the fender bolt at 11 o'clock in the photo.

Below is the top of an M235i/F22. You can see that the minimal strut tower brace only attaches to the strut mounting top at a single bolt.

These are the cars that have similar compatibility to the F22 and will either work out of the box, or with minimal changes like spring perch diameter for the MINIs, or additional or fewer perimeter bolts for some other models.

• 1' F20
• 1' F21
• 2' F22
• 2' F23
• 2' F45 Active Tourer
• 3' F30
• 3' F31
• 3' F34 GT
• 3' F35
• 4' F32
• 4' F33
• 4' F36
• X1 F48
• MINI F55
• MINI F56

That is correct, none M and M don't share the same plates.

casper83 · 02-11-2016, 01:08 PM

If they need an Xdrive tester I volunteer.

HP Autosport · 02-11-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by casper83

If they need an Xdrive tester I volunteer.

Please contact Vorshlag directly.

modernbeat · 02-11-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by casper83

If they need an Xdrive tester I volunteer.

We welcome it. But you have to bring the car to our shop for measurement and installation. No exceptions.

Liquidpaper · 03-15-2016, 12:39 PM

Any update? I'll start throwing money at the screen if I need to.

HP Autosport · 03-15-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquidpaper

Any update? I'll start throwing money at the screen if I need to.

Nothing yet.

modernbeat · 03-15-2016, 06:20 PM

Testing is looking good. Going to make one small change to the production run to allow a little quicker machine time.

Liquidpaper · 03-15-2016, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by modernbeat

Testing is looking good. Going to make one small change to the production run to allow a little quicker machine time.

Quick question -- I currently am running the GC plates that everyone has complained about so much here (and elsewhere). I am planning on ditching them and switching to yours. How much NVH do your plates generate? I know rwalker and I have had some serious low-speed "clunking" with the GC plates. It is tolerable, but annoying.

I know that when you replace rubber strut-mounts with heim joints, it will create more noise, but how much for you guys? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Mywifes335 · 03-18-2016, 12:17 AM

Any ETA on the camber plates?

HP Autosport · 03-20-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Any ETA on the camber plates?

No, not yet.

Maybe Vorshlag will chime in?

Liquidpaper · 04-04-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by modernbeat

Testing is looking good. Going to make one small change to the production run to allow a little quicker machine time.

modernbeat any updates? I think you should be close by now? Thank you.

AKPAB · 04-20-2016, 09:33 AM

Now that autocross season has begun, I'm really looking forward to these plates. Any update?

Thanks!

HP Autosport · 04-20-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AKPAB

Now that autocross season has begun, I'm really looking forward to these plates. Any update?

Thanks!

No, no updates yet.

Mywifes335 · 04-20-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autosport

No, no updates yet.

Dammit. I need a set of camber plates and not sure what's the best option outside Vorschlag...

Liquidpaper · 04-20-2016, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Dammit. I need a set of camber plates and not sure what's the best option outside Vorschlag...

Just wait. Everyone else has problems. Don't waste your money until we figure out if Vorshlag got it right or not.

Pparana · 04-20-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Dammit. I need a set of camber plates and not sure what's the best option outside Vorschlag...

Kmac stage 2 are great, plus adjustable castor. Been running them for over a year.

Mywifes335 · 04-20-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pparana

Kmac stage 2 are great, plus adjustable castor. Been running them for over a year.

Neither you nor Liquidpaper have steered me wrong yet.

How much were the kmacs?

Btw running BMW Meth kit with twin CM5 nozzles and boost juice. Had to raise spray to start at 8psi to avoid bogging. Seen logs of 17psi in lower gears...haven't had the chance to test higher gears yet besides dyno.

What did you set your meth parameters at and the fail safe boost?

I'm at 45 for meth add and scaling at 60. Failsafe at 18.5psi.

02-07-2016, 12:32 AM	#25
ocN55 Lieutenant Colonel 560 Rep 1,503 Posts Drives: '15 M235i 6MT/ '16 M3 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: LA iTrader: (18)	I noticed that these will be the same part for F8x cars. Not looking forward to the M tax carrying over to the f22 Regardless, I think this will be the winner of the segment. __________________ FBO M235i r F80 M3
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02-10-2016, 10:37 AM	#27
modernbeat Motorsports Engineer 46 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Caged Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure the F22/F30 main plate will work for the F8x cars. Though the strut tower is the same, there are a few extra parts bolted to the top mount that don't exist in the non-M3/M4 cars. There is a huge girdle that spans the width of the car like a strut tower brace, but much more significant. Below is the top of the M3 strut mount. Note the three bolts attaching the strut mount to the strut tower brace that is also tied into the fender bolt at 11 o'clock in the photo. Below is the top of an M235i/F22. You can see that the minimal strut tower brace only attaches to the strut mounting top at a single bolt. These are the cars that have similar compatibility to the F22 and will either work out of the box, or with minimal changes like spring perch diameter for the MINIs, or additional or fewer perimeter bolts for some other models. • 1' F20 • 1' F21 • 2' F22 • 2' F23 • 2' F45 Active Tourer • 3' F30 • 3' F31 • 3' F34 GT • 3' F35 • 4' F32 • 4' F33 • 4' F36 • X1 F48 • MINI F55 • MINI F56 __________________ Jason McDaniel at Vorshlag
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02-11-2016, 01:08 PM	#29
casper83 Second Lieutenant 119 Rep 221 Posts Drives: M235i XDrive Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (1)	If they need an Xdrive tester I volunteer.
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03-15-2016, 12:39 PM	#32
Liquidpaper Captain 451 Rep 845 Posts Drives: '15 M235i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M235i [0.00]	Any update? I'll start throwing money at the screen if I need to. __________________ 2015 BMW 2 Series
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03-15-2016, 06:20 PM	#34
modernbeat Motorsports Engineer 46 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Caged Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	Testing is looking good. Going to make one small change to the production run to allow a little quicker machine time. __________________ Jason McDaniel at Vorshlag
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03-18-2016, 12:17 AM	#36
Mywifes335 Major 1631 Rep 1,422 Posts Drives: 2014 FBO M235i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Any ETA on the camber plates?
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04-20-2016, 09:33 AM	#39
AKPAB New Member 5 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	Now that autocross season has begun, I'm really looking forward to these plates. Any update? Thanks!
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