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      09-13-2014, 06:45 AM   #1
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Question 2015 228x vs M Sport vs Sport

Hi all, love the new 228x, I think even better than my 325xi. Can't decide which model to order. What are differences between the "lines" and the M Sport, sport, etc. Drove the car and loved the 228i. But 2 hours away from dealer and need some help. Appreciate all comments.
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      09-13-2014, 07:53 AM   #2
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Regardless of whether you get the AWD x model, get the Sport or MSport to get better suspension, wheels/tires. seats. There is a big difference in driving the base model vs the MSport. Like driving a Camry vs a BMW.
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Go to bmws USA website and build one to learn. I prefer Msport over sport line, but that's your call. Check out the track pack also.

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I started thinking I wanted an MSport, but found I could get everything I wanted in the Sportline. The only significant difference turned out to be the less sporty designed steering wheel, but the Sportline wheel is great, red stitching, thick, well-shaped rim. MSport has different (not better or worse) front and rear fascias, but you lose your fog lamps. I couldn't get my color choice on MSport either, so I added options to the Sportline and built essentially the same car, and it does have the same Sport seats! Paid about $42k.

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I started thinking I wanted an MSport, but found I could get everything I wanted in the Sportline. The only significant difference turned out to be the less sporty designed steering wheel, but the Sportline wheel is great, red stitching, thick, well-shaped rim. MSport has different (not better or worse) front and rear fascias, but you lose your fog lamps.
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I think the car looks good either way, but in Norway you lose a lot of the resale value if you don't have m-sport fitted
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Regardless of whether you get the AWD x model, get the Sport or MSport to get better suspension, wheels/tires. seats. There is a big difference in driving the base model vs the MSport. Like driving a Camry vs a BMW.
What a load of horseshit!
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It's pretty much cosmetic differences. You just need to decide what you like between the two, interior and exterior wise.
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It's pretty much cosmetic differences. You just need to decide what you like between the two, interior and exterior wise.
And they are really subtle....it's mostly the badge if you build the rest of the car correctly. The fascias are six of one/half a dozen of another...the steering wheel may be the most noticeable, but as I said, the Sportline one is also quite nice! I'm actually surprised there isn't more substance to the MSport line.
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There are couple more minor differences that were not mentioned.
M-sports have perforated leather manual shift know and have small body painted rear deck spoiler.
There is also a possibility of extra oil cooler on the M-sports and the reason for the absence of fog lights.
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And they are really subtle....it's mostly the badge if you build the rest of the car correctly. The fascias are six of one/half a dozen of another...the steering wheel may be the most noticeable, but as I said, the Sportline one is also quite nice! I'm actually surprised there isn't more substance to the MSport line.
I'm partial to sport line too! It really shines in your profile pic.

Additionally, it will look unique in a sea of M-sports. M-sport is really popular.
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There are couple more minor differences that were not mentioned.
M-sports have perforated leather manual shift know and have small body painted rear deck spoiler.
There is also a possibility of extra oil cooler on the M-sports and the reason for the absence of fog lights.
Good point about the spoiler. I had forgotten. But I do remember thinking that would be easy to add back. It wasn't going to get in the way of ordering Valencia Orange and that was Sportline only. The other stuff just didn't break the "meaningful" threshold for me and I didn't want to lose the fogs.
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What a load of horseshit!
And yet there are people who say we can be overly defensive about our preferences in cars .
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What a load of horseshit!
Sorry if I offended you, but I drove the base model and a M235i twice before buying the 228 MSport. Perhaps my Camry comment is a little exaggerated but there is a huge difference between the base model and the MSport in terms of driving dynamics. If the original poster is looking for a very sporty car, they need to know that they should get the Sport or MSport.
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The M Sport body kit (front and rear bumpers) look much better and transform the look of the car over the standard and sport lines. I would spend the extra for the M sport.
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      09-16-2014, 04:11 PM   #16
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Sorry if I offended you, but I drove the base model and a M235i twice before buying the 228 MSport. Perhaps my Camry comment is a little exaggerated but there is a huge difference between the base model and the MSport in terms of driving dynamics. If the original poster is looking for a very sporty car, they need to know that they should get the Sport or MSport.
Fair enough...but the base model drives very sporty. Much better than any other car I have ever driven. I guess it depends on the point of reference. I just don't see how the suspension could change it that much. Yes, the Camry reference was way off base. I have driven Camrys and they drive nothing like the base 228i.
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And yet there are people who say we can be overly defensive about our preferences in cars .
Just a touch I think the base model drives like a mad man! Maybe its just me that dives like a mad man!
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Fair enough...but the base model drives very sporty. Much better than any other car I have ever driven. I guess it depends on the point of reference. I just don't see how the suspension could change it that much. Yes, the Camry reference was way off base. I have driven Camrys and they drive nothing like the base 228i.
Agreed--my reference was an E36 M3 with a VW GTI in between. The 228 MSport is very close to the M3 without the racecar harshness. Previously, I had a non-sport model E36 325i, and added Bilstein shocks and better wheels and tires, and it made a huge difference. So, if you ever want to upgrade your 228, get a set of 18" wheels and tires and new shocks.
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Agreed--my reference was an E36 M3 with a VW GTI in between. The 228 MSport is very close to the M3 without the racecar harshness. Previously, I had a non-sport model E36 325i, and added Bilstein shocks and better wheels and tires, and it made a huge difference. So, if you ever want to upgrade your 228, get a set of 18" wheels and tires and new shocks.
What exactly does 18 inch wheels and different shocks do for the cars handling? I am just curious. How is it enhanced? Does it have to do with weight tranfer when cornering?

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I guess since I will never track my car any of those things would be of little value to me. I am more of a Luxury Line BMW guy than an MSport line. I prefer a more elegant looking ride than one with all the extra ground effects and race looking fluff. I appreciate nice sport cars, but if I am going to buy a sports car I will buy one that is a sports car out of the box....ie a Cayman!
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What exactly does 18 inch wheels and different shocks do for the cars handling? I am just curious. How is it enhanced? Does it have to do with weight tranfer when cornering?
Generally, larger wheels do not enhance handling per se. They might increase the ride stiffness, which could give you a bit more feel for what's going on under the car. In a very cushy car, they might make the car feel more "sporty" in a general sense. But mostly, bigger wheels are for looks.

Shocks are a different issue. They affect both ride and handling. They work with the springs to keep the wheels in place. The stiffer the shocks, the more resistance there will be to the wheels moving up and down, which will help keep the car from bobbing up and down and help the tires maintain better contact with the road surface. This makes the car more controllable at higher speeds. The flip side is that stiffer shocks will also make the ride more harsh.
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What exactly does 18 inch wheels and different shocks do for the cars handling? I am just curious. How is it enhanced? Does it have to do with weight tranfer when cornering?
Larger wheels tend to take wider lower profile tires, which have more traction and less side to side give. This causes handling to be firmed up and more direct. Shocks will have more damping and more closely control the spring movement and rebound, firming up the ride. If you like more of a luxury feel, stick with the base suspension and wheels.
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