[M2KH]

Hey guys

Dealer wants 880$ + tax for the cold air intake.

Question I have is, is it worth it? Does it sound better with the MPE? Will I gain any power?

Anyone have it? I know Dinan is pricey but I don't want any issues with my warranty.

[BarryJI]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

Hey guys

Dealer wants 880$ + tax for the cold air intake.

Question I have is, is it worth it? Does it sound better with the MPE? Will I gain any power?

Anyone have it? I know Dinan is pricey but I don't want any issues with my warranty.

There is another recent thread on this somewhere. To summarize:

Not worth it for the power gains with a turbocharged engine as they are non-existent. Definitely worth it if you have the M235i and combine the CAI with Dinan's S2 tune. This combo is not available for the 228i, alas.

Some people love the enhanced "whoosh" from the turbo with this mod and no tune but IMO it's way too much money for a "whoosh" with no appreciable engine performance gain.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

Hey guys

Dealer wants 880$ + tax for the cold air intake.

Question I have is, is it worth it? Does it sound better with the MPE? Will I gain any power?

Anyone have it? I know Dinan is pricey but I don't want any issues with my warranty.

No intake is worth anything on an F2x -- or an F3x, for that matter. The OEM intake is already well designed on both the N20 (228) and the N55 (235), and no aftermarket intake has proven power gains on its own -- in fact, there's proof that some actually rob the N20 of power (not sure about the N55).

The only reason to purchase one is for under-hood cosmetics. So unless you plan on your ride being a show car, Just say no.

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by BarryJI

There is another recent thread on this somewhere. To summarize:

Not worth it for the power gains with a turbocharged engine as they are non-existent. Definitely worth it if you have the M235i and combine the CAI with Dinan's S2 tune. This combo is not available for the 228i, alas.

Some people love the enhanced "whoosh" from the turbo with this mod and no tune but IMO it's way too much money for a "whoosh" with no appreciable engine performance gain.

I have a M235 with MPE

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

No intake is worth anything on an F2x -- or an F3x, for that matter. The OEM intake is already well designed on both the N20 (228) and the N55 (235), and no aftermarket intake has proven power gains on its own -- in fact, there's proof that some actually rob the N20 of power (not sure about the N55).

The only reason to purchase one is for under-hood cosmetics. So unless you plan on your ride being a show car, Just say no.

I noticed gains on my 330. Throttle response and sound

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

I noticed gains on my 330. Throttle response and sound

That's the N52 engine, which was the N20's precursor. Totally different.

Seriously: If you want to spend $800-plus on better sound, put it toward an exhaust. The N20's engine management system and throttle-by-wire means any perception of throttle response gain anyone has is absolutely placebo effect. Same applies to the N55. The only way an intake may be beneficial is if engine management software is altered and other parts of the drivetrain are upgraded.

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

That's the N52 engine, which was the N20's precursor. Totally different.

Seriously: If you want to spend $800-plus on better sound, put it toward an exhaust. The N20's engine management system and throttle-by-wire means any perception of throttle response gain anyone has is absolutely placebo effect. Same applies to the N55. The only way an intake may be beneficial is if engine management software is altered and other parts of the drivetrain are upgraded.

Well I have the MPE exhaust so it sounds great already. I just have always had a CAI and noticed a difference sound and power wise but perhaps this engine as you say is different.

[M2KH]

from another thread...curious to hear the sound if anyone has a video.

Initial impressions are positive

According to jb4 app IAT's are a few degrees cooler compared to oem with drop in.

Noise - slight increase in induction whoosh but not excessive

Throttle response - did both throttle body and gearbox adaption resets once CAI fitted so difficult to say any gains before and after so. Feels good though - punchy when you get on it and stutter free on part throttle.

Performance gains - car is fishing quick already so hard to gauge. Would need before and afters to show any numerical gains or losses.

Looks - a splash of CF under the bonnet but this is low on my priority list as I don't drive around with the bonnet off !!!

[SVPREME]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

Hey guys

Dealer wants 880$ + tax for the cold air intake.

Question I have is, is it worth it? Does it sound better with the MPE? Will I gain any power?

Anyone have it? I know Dinan is pricey but I don't want any issues with my warranty.

Getbmwparts will sell you that for $525.
Never buy from dealer lol

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by PLAYDIRTY

Getbmwparts will sell you that for $525.
Never buy from dealer lol

but shipping and duty to Canada.... think its a lot?

[BMWZ4]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

but shipping and duty to Canada.... think its a lot?

If you buy from the US plus exchange plus duty plus brokerage fees it'll be about $850.

[SVPREME]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

but shipping and duty to Canada.... think its a lot?

Just inquire with them, i'm sure it'll still end up less.

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by BMWZ4

If you buy from the US plus exchange plus duty plus brokerage fees it'll be about $850.

Thank you! 617$ had me all excited LOL

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

That's the N52 engine, which was the N20's precursor. Totally different.

Seriously: If you want to spend $800-plus on better sound, put it toward an exhaust. The N20's engine management system and throttle-by-wire means any perception of throttle response gain anyone has is absolutely placebo effect. Same applies to the N55. The only way an intake may be beneficial is if engine management software is altered and other parts of the drivetrain are upgraded.

found this too, curious your thoughts on it

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1137246

[BMWZ4]

I love mine by the way and my Stage 2.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

found this too, curious your thoughts on it

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1137246

"looks like stock with a another air filter made to fit. where is the engineering?"

"He is upgrading to stage II dinan tune, Today in fact. Makes sense to go with the dinan CAI since that is the CAI they engineered their tune with."

His 0-60 runs are made after he had a Stage 2 Dinan ECU mod installed. The first ones are mere hours after, in fact.

And 0-60 runs are NOT a good indicator of added power. Especially when A (pre-mod) and B (post-mod) runs aren't on the same day.

The CAI probably helped a tad with the Stage 2 tune. On an OEM motor, though, it will likely do nothing -- or hurt it.

Read through CAI threads on the F30 forums. Plenty of evidence there that backs up what I and others are trying to tell you: a CAI is worthless unless you upgrade other parts of the motor.

[M2KH]

Originally Posted by BMWZ4

I love mine by the way and my Stage 2.

Can you send any videos so I can hear the sound?

[eflatminor]

Originally Posted by BarryJI

This combo is not available for the 228i, alas.

I noticed that as well. Do you happen to know why that is? Perhaps it's coming?

[M235iguy]

Definitely will get the whoosh and to me it is slightly more noticeable and louder at high revs. I paid under $550 for mine and installed it myself. It was worth it to me. It depends on who you ask on these forums. People like to spend a lot of money for a BMW and then buy cheap aftermarket parts and tunes, those are usually the people that tell you not to buy Dinan. Doesn't make sense to me, to each their own.

[BarryJI]

Originally Posted by eflatminor

I noticed that as well. Do you happen to know why that is? Perhaps it's coming?

I can't be optimistic. Perhaps our friendly Dinan rep will chime in but as far as I can gather, it's diminishing returns for them to do all the R & D necessary to make a Stage 2 tune for the N20/N26, provide really significant output gains and still keep it emissions-legal in fifty states. And I am double-screwed, as I have the SULEV N26, which is such an emissions-conscious engine in such an emissions-conscious state (CA) that it's just not a worthwhile development platform for Dinan's most aggressive products (although the stock output is almost identical to the N20's).

Dinan does have a gnarly S4 tune that comes with their Big Turbo mod for the N55/N20 which did just pass emissions regs for fifty states but it's a very expensive, radical mod that is aimed at track rather than street use.

I've probably hit the ceiling for emissions-legal, non-warranty-jeopardising mods for my N26 228i (see sig), and this makes me a little sad sometimes when I feel I should have ordered the N20, but, as I always say, as presently configured, the car is very quick indeed on the street, more so than the Lotus I once owned. If you are looking for a really transformative mod for your 228i having done the Dinan S1 tune, I cannot overstate the effect their springs and bump stops, plus their Shockware mod, have on this car's handling, dynamics under load, and ability to put the power you have down on the road.

[OpenAir]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

No intake is worth anything on an F2x -- or an F3x, for that matter. The OEM intake is already well designed on both the N20 (228) and the N55 (235), and no aftermarket intake has proven power gains on its own -- in fact, there's proof that some actually rob the N20 of power (not sure about the N55).

The only reason to purchase one is for under-hood cosmetics. So unless you plan on your ride being a show car, Just say no.

+1

[BMWZ4]

Originally Posted by 235Beast

Can you send any videos so I can hear the sound?

I'm out of the city until next Wednesday. I can try next weekend but I bet if you did a search on the forum or maybe even YouTube you might find a video sooner.