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      08-01-2016, 11:29 AM   #89
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I just noticed this morning that Apple Carplay is a $300 option .
This was not there yesterday.

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      08-01-2016, 11:46 AM   #90
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You can always opt for the coilovers. Bilstein even makes one that plugs into the adjustable suspension.
Which Bilstein coilovers utilize OEM adjustability ?
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      08-01-2016, 12:25 PM   #91
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I just noticed this morning that Apple Carplay is a $300 option .
This was not there yesterday.

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It's actually more because to have Apple CarPlay, you also have to upgrade to navigation so it's over $2k to have it
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      08-01-2016, 02:00 PM   #92
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I've had two dealers tell me they won't go below MSRP because they have limited M240i allocations.
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      08-01-2016, 02:38 PM   #93
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I've had two dealers tell me they won't go below MSRP because they have limited M240i allocations.
Wow that's a load of crap lol. Sorry, don't mean to laugh at the situation, but that's a crappy excuse in my opinion. Did you go in or did you call?
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      08-01-2016, 02:55 PM   #94
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Wow that's a load of crap lol. Sorry, don't mean to laugh at the situation, but that's a crappy excuse in my opinion. Did you go in or did you call?
I called and then told them "no thanks." I won't even waste my time visiting a dealership like that.
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I called and then told them "no thanks." I won't even waste my time visiting a dealership like that.
Good because I don't think anyone else is having that issue that I've heard of, specially over here for the military sales in Germany. The guy I'm working with at the dealer told me he's had about 4 or 5 orders and they're all below msrp.
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      08-01-2016, 08:19 PM   #96
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Which Bilstein coilovers utilize OEM adjustability ?
I believe it's the DampTronic series. http://www.bilsteinus.com/products/e...in-damptronic/
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I believe it's the DampTronic series. http://www.bilsteinus.com/products/e...in-damptronic/
I am pretty sure they don't make them for 2-series
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You can always opt for the coilovers. Bilstein even makes one that plugs into the adjustable suspension.
Which Bilstein coilovers utilize OEM adjustability ?
Sorry, that may be KW. It was in an add in the Roundel issue that the debuted the M2. It looked like a regular coil over set, but had a plug and wire for adjusting the valving remotely.
Here is s link to KWs set. It's very expensive.

http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/ada...lay-coilovers/

I've heard Bilstein was making a kit, but I haven't found it.

I love the factory M235i set up, the adjustments are tuned well for my driving with comfort being just a little more sporty than say an old Mercedes S class, and sport plus feeling like my old '83 944 after I upgraded to aluminum A-arms, polyurethane bushings, Bilsteins up front and Konis in the back. Sport is what I use most of the time and it's nicely in between.
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Sorry, that may be KW. It was in an add in the Roundel issue that the debuted the M2. It looked like a regular coil over set, but had a plug and wire for adjusting the valving remotely.
Here is s link to KWs set. It's very expensive.

http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/ada...lay-coilovers/

I've heard Bilstein was making a kit, but I haven't found it.

I love the factory M235i set up, the adjustments are tuned well for my driving with comfort being just a little more sporty than say an old Mercedes S class, and sport plus feeling like my old '83 944 after I upgraded to aluminum A-arms, polyurethane bushings, Bilsteins up front and Konis in the back. Sport is what I use most of the time and it's nicely in between.
I don't think KW kit uses stock ED ECU and it's switching. It has its own ECU and switching is done via app or 3 buttons that you have to mount on dash

I would be interested in 100% plug and play system that does use comfort/sport/sport+ switch
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Sorry, that may be KW. It was in an add in the Roundel issue that the debuted the M2. It looked like a regular coil over set, but had a plug and wire for adjusting the valving remotely.
Here is s link to KWs set. It's very expensive.

http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/ada...lay-coilovers/

I've heard Bilstein was making a kit, but I haven't found it.

I love the factory M235i set up, the adjustments are tuned well for my driving with comfort being just a little more sporty than say an old Mercedes S class, and sport plus feeling like my old '83 944 after I upgraded to aluminum A-arms, polyurethane bushings, Bilsteins up front and Konis in the back. Sport is what I use most of the time and it's nicely in between.
I don't think KW kit uses stock ED ECU and it's switching. It has its own ECU and switching is done via app or 3 buttons that you have to mount on dash

I would be interested in 100% plug and play system that does use comfort/sport/sport+ switch
I agree, why pay $4,000.00 unless it's plug and play? The link I posted claims it's plug and play and controlled through the factory system and console switch. From what I've read they make a plug and play, but they also make a non adjustable version where you have to code out the factory controller or the car will think the suspension dampers have failed and put you in limp mode. If you use the non adjustables then you are set permanently to whatever you've set the KWs to. I like being able to adjust things with a push of the button, and I like that it also adjusts the engine throttle and automatic transmission. In comfort mode the car does not respond at all to the throttle. It's like sticking your foot in mud. In sport it adjusts to the throttle quickly and the transmission is perfect at selecting the right gear. It makes you think it's looking at the road and selecting gears like I would with a manual trans. I find sport plus a little touchy, but it does say, "+"! I also like that it doesn't let you adjust each of these like on the M3 and M4 where you can mix and match. I'm glad they just picked the best three overall settings. I don't count eco pro because it makes it drive like a Prius but you only get 33mpg rather than 32. Not worth it.
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I agree, why pay $4,000.00 unless it's plug and play? The link I posted claims it's plug and play and controlled through the factory system and console switch. From what I've read they make a plug and play, but they also make a non adjustable version where you have to code out the factory controller or the car will think the suspension dampers have failed and put you in limp mode. If you use the non adjustables then you are set permanently to whatever you've set the KWs to. I like being able to adjust things with a push of the button, and I like that it also adjusts the engine throttle and automatic transmission. In comfort mode the car does not respond at all to the throttle. It's like sticking your foot in mud. In sport it adjusts to the throttle quickly and the transmission is perfect at selecting the right gear. It makes you think it's looking at the road and selecting gears like I would with a manual trans. I find sport plus a little touchy, but it does say, "+"! I also like that it doesn't let you adjust each of these like on the M3 and M4 where you can mix and match. I'm glad they just picked the best three overall settings. I don't count eco pro because it makes it drive like a Prius but you only get 33mpg rather than 32. Not worth it.
Yeah I see now, I think you are right. They seem to have 100% plug and play as well. I was looking on smart phone and overlooked it. $2750 shipped maybe not that bad after all if Sport mode beats M2 in handling and comfort

http://www.bimmerworld.com/KW-Coilov...-with-EDC.html

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I agree, why pay $4,000.00 unless it's plug and play? The link I posted claims it's plug and play and controlled through the factory system and console switch. From what I've read they make a plug and play, but they also make a non adjustable version where you have to code out the factory controller or the car will think the suspension dampers have failed and put you in limp mode. If you use the non adjustables then you are set permanently to whatever you've set the KWs to. I like being able to adjust things with a push of the button, and I like that it also adjusts the engine throttle and automatic transmission. In comfort mode the car does not respond at all to the throttle. It's like sticking your foot in mud. In sport it adjusts to the throttle quickly and the transmission is perfect at selecting the right gear. It makes you think it's looking at the road and selecting gears like I would with a manual trans. I find sport plus a little touchy, but it does say, "+"! I also like that it doesn't let you adjust each of these like on the M3 and M4 where you can mix and match. I'm glad they just picked the best three overall settings. I don't count eco pro because it makes it drive like a Prius but you only get 33mpg rather than 32. Not worth it.
Yeah I see now, I think you are right. They seem to have 100% plug and play as well. I was looking on smart phone and overlooked it. $2750 shipped maybe not that bad after all if Sport mode beats M2 in handling and comfort

http://www.bimmerworld.com/KW-Coilov...-with-EDC.html
I would really like to hear what people who've put them on an M235i think. It's KW so I expect a good product, but ride comfort, performance, height, etc is such a personal and application specific thing. It's worse than finding a mattress you like. Kind of Princess and the Pea meets Goldilocks! I would guess it would work well for the track star that has to daily drive it too, or at least drive it to the track. If you hear any testimonials, please post them.
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