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      12-03-2014, 10:44 AM   #45
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You must not have read the quotes i provided above. I also included the link to the thread.

Please note it's from a while back, but so far he hasn't posted any info to the contrary. So I'm going to try to stay optimistic.
That "article" also says that the M2 will be a 4 cylinder, so that pretty much gives it 0 credibility.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a 2er GC, but I'd rather be optimistic about something that's possible (CF roof on the M2), rather than falsely hope for a 2er GC to come out next year without even seeing mules being tested yet
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That "article" also says that the M2 will be a 4 cylinder, so that pretty much gives it 0 credibility.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a 2er GC, but I'd rather be optimistic about something that's possible (CF roof on the M2), rather than falsely hope for a 2er GC to come out next year without even seeing mules being tested yet
I'm only referring to what Scott26 said. He wasn't the one that said a 4 cylinder engine was a certainty, was he? But I do recall him saying that several engines were being considered, including a 4 pot turbo. Big difference when he says engines being considered vs a sure thing.

It still has a year before the standard 2GC is "planned to be released". Plenty of time for mules to come out. I'm still confident until I hear an actual no, like when the head of M division came out and said no M4GC.
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You must not have read the quotes i provided above. I also included the link to the thread.

Please note it's from a while back, but so far he hasn't posted any info to the contrary. So I'm going to try to stay optimistic.
I read them, I just think that because there havent been updates in so long, and then the more recent updates with the new 1er render, Scott might have said 2er instead of 1er on purpose? Although I wouldnt know why he'd do that. Nevermind
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I read them, I just think that because there havent been updates in so long, and then the more recent updates with the new 1er render, Scott might have said 2er instead of 1er on purpose? Although I wouldnt know why he'd do that. Nevermind
I'm just hoping BMW decides that they definitely want to take on the CLA45 AMG and they build the M2GC. That'd be a cool matchup even with the Merc being 4wd. I'd really love a modern E36 M3 sedan with a turbo.
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I'm just hoping BMW decides that they definitely want to take on the CLA45 AMG and they build the M2GC. That'd be a cool matchup even with the Merc being 4wd. I'd really love a modern E36 M3 sedan with a turbo.
I remember hearing from another thread that the 1 series linup will recieve an M1 (NOT M1 Supercar or i8S!), thats purely speculative though.
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I remember hearing from another thread that the 1 series linup will recieve an M1 (NOT M1 Supercar or i8S!), thats purely speculative though.
I wish BMW would just put me out of my misery and announce their model roadmap for the next 2-3 years. I know that wouldn't be smart from a business standpoint, but it would be nice for us to know.
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I wish BMW would just put me out of my misery and announce their model roadmap for the next 2-3 years. I know that wouldn't be smart from a business standpoint, but it would be nice for us to know.
I think they have like a 7 year plan for upcoming models and facelifts (Top Secret?) and thats part of the reason they are researching CF with Toyota.
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I need a four door car and would rather an M2 than the M3 due to the size and weight.
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The main reason *many* buyers today want something like an M2 sedan is that the F30/80 3-series is a huge car with a wheelbase longer than the E23 7-series, width more than the E23, etc. My wife has zero interest in an E23, E39-sized car... Hence Audi has tapped the pulse of the marketplace that simply is fed up with a "series" car getting larger and larger such that now the smallest BMW sedan is the size of the E23 7-series and E39 5-series...
Some guys looked at me like I was crazy when I started saying that I'd like to see an M2GC. Glad to see I'm not the only one who's fed up with the bloat.
IMO, there wont be M2GC, because if there isn't M4GC, why would they make M2GC... I would like to see 2GC and M4GC, but not sure for M2GC. They've gone too far with M badge,they put it on every single car.
What's the point for M235i and M2 (same thing with M340i and M3). A 235i is ok but M235i? I understand the M Performance cars, had this two..hmm? Also, why they make M5(5)0d? Who wants M Diesel?!
But again, IN MY OPINION
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IMO, there wont be M2GC, because if there isn't M4GC, why would they make M2GC... I would like to see 2GC and M4GC, but not sure for M2GC. They've gone too far with M badge,they put it on every single car.
What's the point for M235i and M2 (same thing with M340i and M3). A 235i is ok but M235i? I understand the M Performance cars, had this two..hmm? Also, why they make M5(5)0d? Who wants M Diesel?!
But again, IN MY OPINION
Pretty drastic difference. Forget the badge for one second, who the hell cares. It's just a piece of plastic on the outside of the car that you can take dental floss to it if it bothers you so much. I don't understand why people complain so much. Is that why people buy these BMW's? Because they have or don't have M badges?

An M235i/M240i is going to be pretty different than the M2. Maybe not so much in terms of the engine, but visually, and dynamically too. Try driving an F30 335i and then drive an F80 M3.

P.S. I would kill for an F11 M550d. You have no idea how good you Europeans have it . Well apart from what you have to pay for cars of course
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@Scott26: it would be interesting to know if the 2 series GC will be released and the most potent version will be an M Performance one or an M2
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I know chances are very good that there will be a 2 series Gran Coupe, but I haven't heard anything about an M2 GC. God I hope they make it, I'll order one the moment it's announced and finally get a European Delivery.
I wouldn't call the chances "very good." Every other GC is an up-sell from the lower sedan. A 2GC would need to be cheaper than the 3er sedan if they hope to make a sales case for it, but that hurts profits. If the 2GC were the same price, it would be hard to move them to enough customers to make it worth the investment. Catch-22

I want one but I have 0% faith that I'll ever be able to buy one.
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