[Taskmaster]

Problem areas?

Electronic wastegate vs Conventional (Im guessing that’s what EWG and PWG is?)
What is MHD? How is that different than BM3?

And collection of dyno charts and or acclerarion data?
How good is the transmission? I drove an M2 - and the Sequential Box was awesome, I assume its the same for the M235i? (I would prefer a manual over all)

Thanks in advance.

[emtrey]

DCT not available in 235. 8sp AT or 6 sp manual.

M2 has DCT available as an option

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by emtrey

DCT not available in 235. 8sp AT or 6 sp manual.

M2 has DCT available as an option

Sweet.

Any notes on the other questions above?

[amw896]

The 6mt is very good and the car is very reliable overall. I wanted a good tuning platform and have not been disappointed. I went bm3 and fbo after about a year and essentially stopped caring about warranty. I have really only 3 complaints and they are pretty minor.
- My ewg actuator arm seems to have a slight rattle at idle (750rpm). Been doing it since the day I got it and there has never been performance issues so I don't really care.
- The stock rims and tires are way too narrow especially when you start upping power. I had to buy a new set to counter this. It's not the tires that bothers but the rims are too narrow which sucks because I like the stock 405m wheels.
- The crooked driver's seat gets kind of annoying sometimes especially when driving manual.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

Problem areas?

Electronic wastegate vs Conventional (Im guessing that’s what EWG and PWG is?)
What is MHD? How is that different than BM3?

And collection of dyno charts and or acclerarion data?
How good is the transmission? I drove an M2 - and the Sequential Box was awesome, I assume its the same for the M235i? (I would prefer a manual over all)

Thanks in advance.

No specific problems areas with this car.
All m235i will be EWG along with any newer BMW.

MHD vs BM3: The BM3 would be my choice. Seems to have good support and tools. JB4 is another option and probably still the most popular right now.

M2 is DCT and the m235i is automatic. Up shifts are very similar and most will not notice the difference (both will be way faster than manual shifts). Down shift differences more noticeable with the DCT seeming to be faster and smoother (my buddy has a DCT M2), but still very close. My previous 6 cars are so were all manual. I don't regret the auto in my m235i at all though.

[emtrey]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

Sweet.

Any notes on the other questions above?

Modern BMWs are pretty reliable cars. I have been driving BMWs since 1977
( with a 20 yr gap after a very bad experience with a used 630 coupe). and My 2013 335i has been virtually bullet proof. One bad electronic shock replaced under warranty but that is all in 50K miles. Needs front brakes soon. Its now my wife's car.

The M235IX is awesome. I like it even more than my 2004 E46 M-3 cab w/ 6 spd. In a perfect world. it would be a 6 spd manual BUT I have a 911 to fill that need. With the AT, I can switch cars with my wife if need be.

I am not a big "mod" guy so I can't respond to your other questions.
One "Mod" I absolutely do is ditch the run craps. My M235 is now on Michelin PS AS/3 tires and they are way better.

I did have the car coded to customize it to my personal needs.

Don't know much about the crooked seat issue. My 335w/ ppk has sports seats and they look identical to the M235 seats. The M235 seats are perfect for me SO if they are crooked they are bent in the right direction for me.

I might consider a Dinan sport tuner but would have to test a car with it on to see if its that big a deal. The car is quick enough to get into trouble with.

In fact, in certain conditions its faster per the butt dyno than the Porsche. But it the long run the P car would walk away from the BMW assuming you were not driving right to jail.

A friend of mine is giving me his rear performance valence and Dinan exhaust because he no longer has his 235 and it was sitting in his garage gathering dust. That is being repainted and installed next week along with painting the amber reflectors and mirror caps Alpine White to match body.

ps When my friend had his 235 it was stage 3 Dinan and flat out AWESOME.
Car blew me away when I test drove it.

[Taskmaster]

You guys are AWESOME! Thank you!

Any idea what years are the EWG? And why is it better or worse?

[emtrey]

I would not trade the 2006 911S car for a brand new one straight up.
No electric steering, no rev matching, just 5 dials in front of your face and 355 NA hp screaming in your ear from behind.

Also, my 1977 308 GTB ( no longer mine) Not very fast in today's terms but nothing sounds like 8 barrels of Weber carbs sucking air just behind your ear and the mechanical sounds of the transfer gears from the transverse engine. It did not even have power steering. Now that is REAL steering feel.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by emtrey

I would not trade the 2006 911S car for a brand new one straight up.
No electric steering, no rev matching, just 5 dials in front of your face and 355 NA hp screaming in your ear from behind.

Also, my 1977 308 GTB ( no longer mine) Not very fast in today's terms but nothing sounds like 8 barrels of Weber carbs sucking air just behind your ear and the mechanical sounds of the transfer gears from the transverse engine. It did not even have power steering. Now that is REAL steering feel.

You’re a true enthusiast! Above all else, I covet a 911, my dream car of dream cars.

[emtrey]

It was mine , too.

I had made a pact with myself after losing 5 different storage garages over the 24 yrs. I owned the Ferrari , the next time was going to be the last and I was going to get a Porsche. I had an 80K top dollar budget and assumed I would be buying a lightly used car. Found a "stripper" S I could get new for 78K, right color, power, memory seats, premium radio, and not any of the other over priced under needed options Porsche loves to sell.

That happened on a fateful Sunday morning in summer of 2006. 4 days later I drove home in the Carrera leaving my E46 M-3 as a trade in and selling the 308GTB to a guy in Texas who flew in and drove the 308 back to Houston

I miss the 308 but I was very lucky to have had 24 great years with a very good car. I miss the Ferrari but out of my financial reach now.

Bottom line. My heart will always be with Ferrari but my head is now with Porsche. Porsches are better cars, Ferrari are artwork.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by emtrey

It was mine , too.

I had made a pact with myself after losing 5 different storage garages over the 24 yrs. I owned the Ferrari , the next time was going to be the last and I was going to get a Porsche. I had an 80K top dollar budget and assumed I would be buying a lightly used car. Found a "stripper" S I could get new for 78K, right color, power, memory seats, premium radio, and not any of the other over priced under needed options Porsche loves to sell.

That happened on a fateful Sunday morning in summer of 2006. 4 days later I drove home in the Carrera leaving my E46 M-3 as a trade in and selling the 308GTB to a guy in Texas who flew in and drove the 308 back to Houston

I miss the 308 but I was very lucky to have had 24 great years with a very good car. I miss the Ferrari but out of my financial reach now.

Bottom line. My heart will always be with Ferrari but my head is now with Porsche. Porsches are better cars, Ferrari are artwork.

When the 997 dropped, it instantly made the 996 look date - it was a whole new era for Porsche (in my mind) that it looked great, and was probably worth every penny asked (I would still take a classic 964 - I love them) but there was one comparison test I remember reading that has stuck with me 13 years later
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...-comparison-4/

"Yes, it costs a lot more, but it’s Porsche’s unrelenting attention to detail that explains why the Carrera S, with less power and more weight, delivers virtually identical performance to the Corvette. And why it seems more composed, more effortless on almost any piece of road you care to throw it at. The 911 Carrera S is simply the better sports car. At any price."

There will always be faster, cheaper and/or more exotic cars out there - but a 911 is still a 911.

[emtrey]

There will always be faster, cheaper and/or more exotic cars out there - but a 911 is still a 911.

Absolutely. Even with all the better ( statistically/$ value) sports cars out there, BUT nothing drives like a 911. It is a singular experience.

I store my car for 4 months over the winter. When I pick it up , its brand new again to me and starts a whole new chorus of man , this car is fun. It just wants you to continue to push it harder and harder. It is RELENTLESS.

I do not remember that Motor Trend article. Was not thinking 911 at that time BUT its spot on. To me, the 997.1 ( or later .2 GTS ) is as "modern" a Porsche as I want to own.

I was lusting for a Macan GTS ( too pricey ) till the M235 came along and the Macan disappeared off my radar as a DD.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

No specific problems areas with this car.
All m235i will be EWG along with any newer BMW.

MHD vs BM3: The BM3 would be my choice. Seems to have good support and tools. JB4 is another option and probably still the most popular right now.

M2 is DCT and the m235i is automatic. Up shifts are very similar and most will not notice the difference (both will be way faster than manual shifts). Down shift differences more noticeable with the DCT seeming to be faster and smoother (my buddy has a DCT M2), but still very close. My previous 6 cars are so were all manual. I don't regret the auto in my m235i at all though.

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

You guys are AWESOME! Thank you!

Any idea what years are the EWG? And why is it better or worse?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

That doesn't mean much - there are some N55s with EWG, so what exactly is "newer" when the N55 is no longer in production.

[emtrey]

maybe this will help. Found via google search--

2014+ are EWG (Electronic Waste Gate)

2012-2013 are PWG (Pneumatic Waste Gate)

EWG allows for better control of the waste gates so he should get the EWG specific JB4 board.

[Mr Carrots]

Do you plan to flash and turbo swap/meth?

If so the n55 is the best choice imo as the b58 dme is a pain in the ass currently to the point I want to sell my car

If you are planning on staying stock try to get a 240i instead imo, noticeably stronger stock for stock

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr Carrots

Do you plan to flash and turbo swap/meth?

If so the n55 is the best choice imo as the b58 dme is a pain in the ass currently to the point I want to sell my car

If you are planning on staying stock try to get a 240i instead imo, noticeably stronger stock for stock

No meth, no upgraded turbos - just bolt ons and a nice tune. I'll be chasing that M2/4 feeling I had at the M Track days.

[Mr Carrots]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

No meth, no upgraded turbos - just bolt ons and a nice tune. I'll be chasing that M2/4 feeling I had at the M Track days.

Even with meth/jb4 mine doesnt feel like an M, lol.

It's a very capable little car but somewhat bland compared to the full blown Ms

Drive a 235 and 240 and see what you think, if you notice the difference

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

That doesn't mean much - there are some N55s with EWG, so what exactly is "newer" when the N55 is no longer in production.

As I stated ALL m235i will have EWG. You're on the 2 series board and the topic of your post is M235i. If your question was pertaining to other BMW from all years then you should have specified

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

No meth, no upgraded turbos - just bolt ons and a nice tune. I'll be chasing that M2/4 feeling I had at the M Track days.

m235i FBO + e30 + good tune = stock m3/4/5 in terms of acceleration.

[emtrey]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

No meth, no upgraded turbos - just bolt ons and a nice tune. I'll be chasing that M2/4 feeling I had at the M Track days.

Dinan level 1 or 2 should give you the M2 feeling.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

As I stated ALL m235i will have EWG. You're on the 2 series board and the topic of your post is M235i. If your question was pertaining to other BMW from all years then you should have specified



m235i FBO + e30 + good tune = stock m3/4/5 in terms of acceleration.

The 360hp in the M2 didn’t feel far off from the 415 in the M4. It will be substantially faster than what I have now.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Taskmaster

The 360hp in the M2 didn’t feel far off from the 415 in the M4. It will be substantially faster than what I have now.

It's not far off, but a stock m4 will pull a stock m2.

m2 and m235i have same power potential.