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      01-08-2014, 04:06 PM   #89
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That's a good question--maybe for the M135/235, they aren't "counting" the additional ~20 BHP as the PPK, as you would on a 335 or 435 or whatever.

The rumor had been that the power kit would get the M235 into the ~350 BHP range. It will be interesting to see if that's true, and if so, how much $$$ it is going to be...
i feel like they are releasing just to compete with CLA45 AMG.

M235i+LSD+PPK = near same price as CLA45 AMG.

M235i weighs less, and can come in manual
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Any info about LSD? Will it be a option so it can be built from factory? Or will it be an option added on by dealer after delivery?
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Will be aftermarket, July ish available and dealer fit. No price yet
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      01-08-2014, 05:46 PM   #92
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Yes there will be a Power kit for the M235i.
Doesn't the power kit come standard on the M235?
Same question here
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      01-08-2014, 06:33 PM   #93
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That's a good question--maybe for the M135/235, they aren't "counting" the additional ~20 BHP as the PPK, as you would on a 335 or 435 or whatever.

The rumor had been that the power kit would get the M235 into the ~350 BHP range. It will be interesting to see if that's true, and if so, how much $$$ it is going to be...
If you look at pics of the M235 engine it has the same PPK engine cover that comes with the PPK for 3 & 4er

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That's a good question--maybe for the M135/235, they aren't "counting" the additional ~20 BHP as the PPK, as you would on a 335 or 435 or whatever.

The rumor had been that the power kit would get the M235 into the ~350 BHP range. It will be interesting to see if that's true, and if so, how much $$$ it is going to be...
If you look at pics of the M235 engine it has the same PPK engine cover that comes with the PPK for 3 & 4er

Good Eye.

I do not like these new engine covers, they hide to much IMO.
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^ this is why I am interested if any internal engine changes were made to the N55.

Wouldn't an M235i with PPK (350 hp?) make it the most powerful production N55?
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Good Eye.

I do not like these new engine covers, they hide to much IMO.
I agree, I hate them. I absolutely hate them. BMW's engine bays started going down hill when they started hiding the tilt of the inline 6's.

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If you look at pics of the M235 engine it has the same PPK engine cover that comes with the PPK for 3 & 4er

Does anyone know what those four cooling fins at the front of the car are for?

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Good Eye.

I do not like these new engine covers, they hide to much IMO.
I agree, I hate them. I absolutely hate them. BMW's engine bays started going down hill when they started hiding the tilt of the inline 6's.

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If you look at pics of the M235 engine it has the same PPK engine cover that comes with the PPK for 3 & 4er

Does anyone know what those four cooling fins at the front of the car are for?
The headlights I believe!
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Good Eye.

I do not like these new engine covers, they hide to much IMO.
I agree, I hate them. I absolutely hate them. BMW's engine bays started going down hill when they started hiding the tilt of the inline 6's.

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If you look at pics of the M235 engine it has the same PPK engine cover that comes with the PPK for 3 & 4er

Does anyone know what those four cooling fins at the front of the car are for?
The headlights I believe!
You are correct !
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The auto box is only rated for 450 nm of torque so not sure a further ppk will come out.
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On the 1M customers who took Individual early on production had to pay considerably more due to stopping production and shipping the body to Garching for re spraying. This added extra cost almost the cost of another 1M.
At the end of production they did authorise some of the last units to be Individualised hence the Green Mamba Car and a few others at the end of production.

What will happen with the M2 is too early to say...
Although I am sure we will have an extended palette and maybe new exclusive colors?
But vehicles produced at Leipzig - 1er , 2er , X1 even the i3 and i8 are not offered to the Individual programme.
Thanks. Le Mans Blue, Sakhir Orange, Techno Violet... are all nice colours
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Good Eye.

I do not like these new engine covers, they hide to much IMO.
+1 on the good eye--I had not realized that the engine cover changed with the PPK.
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The auto box is only rated for 450 nm of torque so not sure a further ppk will come out.
If they make the PPK for the auto that only increase hp, and not tq, then a ppk would still be feasible.

I guess we will have to wait and see!
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I think I'll be sold on the M235i!
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For the 6-speed manual, will there be a Clutch Delay Valve (CDV), or has that been fixed with updated hydraulics to remove the "sluggish response"?
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For the 6-speed manual, will there be a Clutch Delay Valve (CDV), or has that been fixed with updated hydraulics to remove the "sluggish response"?
U nailed it...
I own a $50k BMW (135is) that feels like a cheap car because something is wrong with the feeling on the clutch. Why does BMW put a $10 restrictor part on a performance vehicle..?

Just to hinder the performance and credibility..?



I have such little control of my clutch plate. It feels is so vague, a CDV should be illegal.
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For the 6-speed manual, will there be a Clutch Delay Valve (CDV), or has that been fixed with updated hydraulics to remove the "sluggish response"?
U nailed it...
I own a $50k BMW (135is) that feels like a cheap car because something is wrong with the feeling on the clutch. Why does BMW put a $10 restrictor part on a performance vehicle..?

Just to hinder the performance and credibility..?



I have such little control of my clutch plate. It feels is so vague, a CDV should be illegal.
Or you could just remove it like we all do :
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I have a question actually. What has been done to give the 235i 330bhp when the 135i has 310?
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