03-15-2017, 10:08 PM | #1 |
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2017 VW Golf R ?
I love my 228i but I'm seriously considering the 2017 Golf R. I realize it's getting a facelift for 2018, but I prefer the analog gauges. A couple of drawbacks - no sunroof or homelink. I know the Golf R does hold its value. So question - anyone with thoughts on the R or experience with recent VWs? My 228i has been solid as far as no major issues in 3 years....VW gremlins have me scurd.
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03-15-2017, 11:21 PM | #2 |
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No issues with our 2016 Golf R so far at 21,000km (13,000 miles). Compared with our 2010 135i, it feels less stable at speed and overall is not as much fun to drive, the paint also has chipped quite a bit compared with the BMW at an equivalent number of kilometres. It is very competent on low traction surfaces, but doesn't have enough camber and heats the brakes up rapidly when on the track. Bearing in mind my criticism, I call the R a real SUV, as it is quite sporting and has good utility, possibly the most competent all round vehicle at a reasonable price. If you want a vehicle that performs very well in everyday life, has AWD, prefer a manual transmission and need decent load carrying capabilities, there really isn't any competition (the Focus RS is quite compromised in hatch shape, so looses a lot of utility).
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03-16-2017, 09:03 AM | #4 |
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I feel like a lot of guys that are looking to make a jump out of their 228i either jump to an M235i or the Golf R. The R is an awesome car. Looks good, sounds good, tons of performance mods out for it as well. But if I had the means to get the M235i over the Golf R, I would have to go with the M235i. I might be a little biased too haha!
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You could easily take the leftover money and add a bigger tune, maybe a turbo upgrade and some wheels. Also OP you mentioned you were disappointed in the lack of a sunroof, the GTI comes with one Don't get me wrong the Golf R is a great car (I still want one) but the extra price and lack of available LSD was a deal breaker for me when I was shopping for an Mk7. Last edited by donkey; 03-16-2017 at 11:03 AM.. |
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40k for the R is a tough nut to choke on.......and I wish they would bring the 2 door back Dont like that 4 door personally |
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Any moral considerations with VW? I sold both an Audi and a Porsche in the last six months. Perhaps BMW and other car makers will be tarnished as well, but I'd like to think that the company I'm supporting is not committing fraud and being sued worldwide for endangering our health. So while I have a choice...
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And the stock wheels.....fugly...... You cant excape those seats or get a sunroof until you upgrade to the SE which is 31,700 MSRP...and even then you're stuck with those butt ugly wheels that look more like a meat slicer than wheels. True car shoves the price down to about 28k.......ymmv.....but those rims need to GO And the Autobahn edition is just false advertising.....it should be the "cuotas" edition |
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A 2 door S model with a sunroof and faux leather would be ideal imho. The fact of the matter is that the VW GTI is one of the only manufacturers that even provides me with the ability to check off all the boxes on my list of potential DD's Hatch MT Sunroof Leather/facsimile seats Heated seats FWD (or xdrive) If BMW offered the 140 in the US I would jump on it.....probably despite the Auto The only other car that comes close is the Mini Cooper S or JCW Interesting car, especially with the B48 engine but its a bit smaller than I would like.....but could probably tolerate it I suspect I would have a lot fewer issues with the GTI over 150-200k |
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03-16-2017, 11:35 AM | #13 |
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The purists will puke all over me but I do miss our 2008 R32. That was a fun little car.
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I had fun in my old golf, but holy crap did that car have so many issues. My brothers Passat too. I'd stay clear from vw.
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And I'd rather an R than a FocRS. The RS rides like crap and have much less utility. Just me though
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Completely off topic, well sort of I guess. There's a dealer (forget who) maybe in Virginia selling a heavily discounted brand new 2015 X1 35 or whatever they call the good one with the big engine. Old body style before they went to the mini-based crap. Anyway that with a $750 Dinan stage 1 tune (it's on sale) would hand most cars their asses and it's less than the R.
Like I said not exactly where we started. It similar with added utility of wagon etc.
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OP, the R is a good enough little car but it needs an APR tune to be truly fun. Stock it felt extremely underwhelming vs my 240i APR has a $30 a month replacement warrenty if you want to go the 'safe' route. Quote:
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I honestly would have bought that car already to replace GF's 328D but it doesn't have Nav. |
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It's a little bizarre how hard people on the X1 section of this forum try so hard to convince themselves that the new one is a 'real BMW' when it's clearly not, especially compared to the hydraulic steering e90 based last gen with the M package. |
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We drove the current X1, 335 GT and 328 sport wagon. GT is garbage, I'd get one for GF realtor since so versatile and great for clients w giant back seat but no fun to drive. X1 was meh, biggest issue was I could not sit in the front seat. I'm 5'6" and fit so I should really be comfortable in most if not all cars, but they just hit me in a really awkward spot and I couldn't feel my legs after a while. Some people love the seats though, go figure.
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