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      12-20-2014, 03:52 PM   #1
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Got a brother for my M235!

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      12-20-2014, 04:23 PM   #2
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nice... I am digging the Luminor watches!
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      12-20-2014, 05:15 PM   #3
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Very special GT3, I hope you get to enjoy it on the track.
I was a PCA driving instructor for a few years here on the east coast.
The reviews on your car are amazing. Good luck with it.
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      12-20-2014, 06:46 PM   #4
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      12-20-2014, 07:03 PM   #5
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Very special GT3, I hope you get to enjoy it on the track.
I was a PCA driving instructor for a few years here on the east coast.
The reviews on your car are amazing. Good luck with it.
I've tracked my Cayman S and 997.2 GT3 significantly over the last 5 years. Great cars. After 70 miles today the car is very special-just in a different way than the old car. It is extremely quick. The gearbox is really really great. Time will tell if it is that "special'.
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      12-20-2014, 07:27 PM   #6
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I've tracked my Cayman S and 997.2 GT3 significantly over the last 5 years. Great cars. After 70 miles today the car is very special-just in a different way than the old car. It is extremely quick. The gearbox is really really great. Time will tell if it is that "special'.
The 991 suspension and especially the rear wheel steering is what makes your GT3 amazing on the track. Great turn in AND high speed stability. Lucky you.
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      12-20-2014, 08:40 PM   #7
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E-diff is also quite trick. Car does rotate really well initially but can still be made to push the front end a bit. No way is car making 475hp. AP was right when he said reality is at least 500....but they had to leave room for the RS.
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      12-20-2014, 10:37 PM   #8
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Simply amazing
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      12-20-2014, 11:52 PM   #9
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Wow. I am SO jelly. Hope that one day I can join you!!
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      12-21-2014, 12:38 AM   #10
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Wow! Awesome.. Love the color too!!
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      12-21-2014, 07:31 AM   #11
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Congrats my man.....congrats. It is great to see our lil puney M235 can park in the same garage beside a car of that statute or even have the privilege of being owned by the same person
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      12-21-2014, 01:29 PM   #12
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The little puny M235 did great. Little of fade and engine held fine in 84 degrees with a little extra juice in it!
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Hey what track is that? Moroso? I did a track day once at Jennings in like 2002 when I was moto racing in the DFW area. Met a guy out there for a track day and sold one of my bikes. Sweet and flat track.

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      12-21-2014, 05:32 PM   #14
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Moroso that morphed into PBIR. Its been repaved and its very fun. m235 ran great.
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      12-21-2014, 08:05 PM   #15
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I've tracked my Cayman S and 997.2 GT3 significantly over the last 5 years. Great cars. After 70 miles today the car is very special-just in a different way than the old car. It is extremely quick. The gearbox is really really great. Time will tell if it is that "special'.
997.2 gt3 for a 991 gt3= blasphemy!

I have a 991, and track about 40 days of the year, I have driven the gt3 991 many times, I find it really needs to be driven at extreme speeds to get fun, a little too gtr for my taste if you get my drift. Shame because it is so beautiful, my 991 lease is up in sept. Thinking of maybe a gts. Can't wrap my head around PDK, still available in a manual.
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      12-21-2014, 09:20 PM   #16
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very nice!

but my Porsche is a Cayenne diesel, and I use to tow my Nissan track car ;(

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      12-22-2014, 06:17 AM   #17
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997.2 gt3 for a 991 gt3= blasphemy!

I have a 991, and track about 40 days of the year, I have driven the gt3 991 many times, I find it really needs to be driven at extreme speeds to get fun, a little too gtr for my taste if you get my drift. Shame because it is so beautiful, my 991 lease is up in sept. Thinking of maybe a gts. Can't wrap my head around PDK, still available in a manual.
Don't worry I still have another 997.2 GT3. Long story but I still am in the manual crowd but I don't know how much you've actually driven a 991 GT3 but on the track it pretty much destroys the 997 and everything else up to a Scud. Anyone with track experience can see that after about 2 corners in it.
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Don't worry I still have another 997.2 GT3. Long story but I still am in the manual crowd but I don't know how much you've actually driven a 991 GT3 but on the track it pretty much destroys the 997 and everything else up to a Scud. Anyone with track experience can see that after about 2 corners in it.
No doubt on that it destroys pretty much any car at any price on the track. I felt the car takes a lot of skill out of the equation. That's just my thoughts which are worthless most of the time. Seat time not much, I got about a 40 minute session before I delaminated the rear tires.


In the gt3 991 I was three seconds off of the motor trend laps at RRR on my fith lap. Not that I am that good of a driver, the car is just that good, ptv, pdcc, 4 wheel steering. I was surprised I could way over cook a entry by 10 mph and the car would make all the corrections for me.

Car was fun, but I like to know I'm doing the driving, or at least some of it, Lap times don't bother me, no one is giving me an award for two seconds slower at a track day.

Did you to carbon brakes or steel, I am interested if you end up getting rear pad melt from the ptv. Pretty common on the 991 with ptv and stock pads, ebc and pagid make a rear that seems to reduce the issue.


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      12-23-2014, 05:49 AM   #20
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Got steels for track. I only have about 40 min on track so far. No one on rennlist has had problems that I am aware of cooking rear pads. Nor have I seen a MPSC2 delaminate like that. At PBIR we weren't that far off Cup cars. In fact I think the car is quicker than all 996 cups and even some 997 cups.
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      12-23-2014, 08:41 AM   #21
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Got steels for track. I only have about 40 min on track so far. No one on rennlist has had problems that I am aware of cooking rear pads. Nor have I seen a MPSC2 delaminate like that. At PBIR we weren't that far off Cup cars. In fact I think the car is quicker than all 996 cups and even some 997 cups.
Thats because they are P zero no spec. Which are free for me, but are also not the best with heat. I threw a set on my friends spare centerlocks. If your going to give me your car to drive the least I can do is not destroy 2 k of rubber. I would prefer the MPSC@ any day, much better tire, but not free. The P zeros delaminate so quickly I use about one set a track day! (photo is my tire supply at the shop, about 2 months worth)

I would imagine the car is faster than all 996 cups and (depending on setup and of course driver) some 997 cups.

Keep in mind in most racing series traction control, electronic roll bars, torque vectoring are all outlawed. Rule of thumb is if it makes the car faster without skill from the driver it is usually banned. ABS was even banned for a while.

Theoretically if you gave your gt3 a diet, about 600lbs, put some slicks and a few other mods it would be faster than a 991 cup car.

I am not sure if the rear brakes are the same as an S, or if the PTV programming is the same. May not be an issue on the GT3, the problem unfortunately is usually not noticed until after the rotor is ruined, but steels are not that pricey. You can usually tell if you look at the inboard rear pads if they are wearing very fast from the PTV than you will probably develop the issue once you start running longer sessions. I have seen it on every 991 with PTV used at the track, one guy even cooked a carbon rotor, that was not cheap!

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