[RotorOver]

Originally Posted by mpbruin108

Wow, and I thought i got a great deal at invoice, which was 7-8% off msrp. kudos to negotiations.

Thanks. I was around 7% and got the USAA discount on top of that. My dealer is high volume, so that definitely helps. Also, they had an M240i on the lot and were able to trade another dealer for what I was looking for, so that may have helped as well. What I was surprised about was how fast we came to terms. My first BMW and have to say I was pretty happy with the process.

[MartyMcFly88MPH]

Maybe look for a slightly used M235i? I recently picked up a 14k mi 2015 M235ix for $39k. MSRP was $51,325, so i'm satisfied. I'm sure better deals will be had as more M240s trickle in.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by orangeglim

3. The infotainment system. Holy crap. A trackball, mouse, pointer thing? What the hell is that thing? My 2013 IS had a touchscreen that was perfectly usable. That mouse thingie? Forget it. I actually asked the sales guy, "Do people actually like this thing?" Seriously, this thing is dreadful.

I owned a Lexus CT 200h F Sport before my 2 Series (Hey: I wanted to try a hybrid. Got rid of it as soon as I could, though I do miss the interior), and I found the Remote Touch Controller to be intuitive to use once you figured it out -- certainly more so than the iDrive wheel, particularly when using it with Nav. The Lexus RTC interface has been redesigned for 2016, too.

Now, granted, I absolutely detest mice -- I've used a trackball nearly my entire working life for a variety of reasons, foremost of which is precision and to help fend off carpal tunnel -- hell, I even use a trackball for gaming and forego imprecise touch pads whenever possible. So maybe I'm biased because of what I'm used to ...

As for the entirety of the cars: One's a 4-door, the other's a 2-door. That's a very important distinction. Enough's been said about the dated powerplants and drivetrains that most Lexii have -- that's a disadvantage of nearly any Toyota product these days, actually. But most people don't care about that stuff as long as it's reliable, and Lexii -- even the F Sport line -- have always been aimed at those very people: those who know about and expect Toyota reliability underneath a stylish, ultra-comfortable, premium package unlike any competitor.

[evilalien]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

your wife wants you to get the lexus...

Your inner child wants the bimmer.

Choose your battles wisely.

My wife wanted me to get the bummer and didn't think it was even worth comparison-shopping the Lexus