[mwatt65]

I'm looking at a 2016 M235 space grey auto HK sound, with 24000 miles for $36k. The carfax says accident vehicle towed on it, the dealer called the previous owner & he said he got it towed to have the Expel put on the car, would the Expel hide any repairs?
Any ideas or thoughts on this? I was going to take it to a dealer or a bodyshop to see if the car has been repaired.
Thoughts on how bad this carfax will hurt me down the line on resell?
good deal or keep looking?
All opinions welcome.

[cohenfive]

I would check to make sure there was no accident, that would clearly have an impact (pun intended) on price. I just bought a loaded 2015 m235i with 18k miles, can give you my ideas on pricing if interested, via pm.

[B58togo]

So just H/K for options? No nav, leather etc? I think you can do a bit better.

[englishguy84]

24,000 in one year sounds high too. Avoid

[p912guy]

Originally Posted by englishguy84

24,000 in one year sounds high too. Avoid

Not saying this is a good deal or a bad deal, but remember a 2016 model year could have been put in service as early as July or August, 2015, so 24000 miles in essentially 18 months isn't really all that high - only a 16,000 mile per year average.

[mwatt65]

Originally Posted by B58togo

So just H/K for options? No nav, leather etc? I think you can do a bit better.

Sorry the car is loaded, comfort, Navi, HK, PDC, camera & auto. With full Expel wrap on front bumper, hood & rear panels. I did get them down a little to $34250

[Benandluna]

Originally Posted by mwatt65

I'm looking at a 2016 M235 space grey auto HK sound, with 24000 miles for $36k. The carfax says accident vehicle towed on it, the dealer called the previous owner & he said he got it towed to have the Expel put on the car, would the Expel hide any repairs?
Any ideas or thoughts on this? I was going to take it to a dealer or a bodyshop to see if the car has been repaired.
Thoughts on how bad this carfax will hurt me down the line on resell?
good deal or keep looking?
All opinions welcome.

Sounds do fishy, I think that would worry many buyers. Perhaps 31.32k

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by englishguy84

24,000 in one year sounds high too. Avoid

Avoid? Umm, why? This car may have come off the assembly line late summer 2015. Not exactly overly high mileage in that case.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by mwatt65

Sorry the car is loaded, comfort, Navi, HK, PDC, camera & auto. With full Expel wrap on front bumper, hood & rear panels. I did get them down a little to $34250

Not bad really. Shoot for $33,750.

[Cumberlandjames]

There are some excellent points provided here. Check the manufacture date, take the VIN to another dealer and ask them to run it, have a body shop measure the paint thickness that will tell you immediately if it has been painted. When I have looked for cars I used a site called CARGURUS.com. It is excellent and provides average pricing for any state you want and any distance from your location. This will give you an accurate idea of what they sell for. The only way to buy a car is being well educated. Good Luck.

[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by B58togo

Avoid? Umm, why? This car may have come off the assembly line late summer 2015. Not exactly overly high mileage in that case.

Very easy to check production date with the free online BMW VIN decoder. It gives you all the std & opt features as well as the production date. Add 2 months to the production date and you have the approx "in service" date of the vehicle.

https://www.bmwvin.com/?vin=WBA1K7C5...se_field=11916

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by englishguy84

24,000 in one year sounds high too. Avoid

This makes no sense

OP, usually if there is a small "accident" it's a good idea to obtain paperwork on what was done. Carfax also makes mistakes, I've see almost totaled cars with zero accidents on CF and then you could get an accident with just a small scratch or a dent. Xpel could be done through the insurance as well if there was a claim.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Very easy to check production date with the free online BMW VIN decoder. It gives you all the std & opt features as well as the production date. Add 2 months to the production date and you have the approx "in service" date of the vehicle.

https://www.bmwvin.com/?vin=WBA1K7C5...se_field=11916

Also have a dealer you are friendly with run the VIN to make sure no trouble. BMW system keeps data not shown anywhere else.

[Rayscott]

You have been given some very good advice as usual on this site. I would heed it and if you decide to buy the vehicle get it checked and documented.

[mwatt65]

I've had a dealer look up the service history, no surprises with it. Production date was 08/08/2015 I'm not to sure if I want this car because I don't want to spent the $55k for an M2.
I understand they are two completely different cars, but for $20k less I was thinking I could live with it. This has been driving me crazy

Thank you for all the help

[Maynard]

I'd suggest getting a pre purchase inspection independently at a good bodyshop, to verify no major damage/repairs; expel can hide repairs, especially those paint-thickness readings (but often obvious from underneath). Then use the carfax as a bargaining tool to get the dealer to add an extended warranty, or cut you a break on the price of one. Not common with this type of car, but there is an ongoing practice of doing repairs privately to avoid carfax listings, usually w/o the benefits of a chassis jig or other pro touches; any decent bodyshop should be able to spot if it had serious repairs. Of course, if there are signs of major repairs, I'd walk, even w/ the extended warranty - too many expensive fiddly bits that can get half-broken in an accident and then fail later.

[p912guy]

Originally Posted by mwatt65

I've had a dealer look up the service history, no surprises with it. Production date was 08/08/2015 I'm not to sure if I want this car because I don't want to spent the $55k for an M2.
I understand they are two completely different cars, but for $20k less I was thinking I could live with it. This has been driving me crazy

Thank you for all the help

You didn't mention you were also considering M2 in your original post. Most on this forum would advise you to follow your gut. If you are looking for a reason to settle for something you don't want simply because it's a lot cheaper instead of what you really want, you won't be happy. The M235i is a great car and for all anyone knows, this particular M235i may be a great car too, but if you really have have your heart set on an M2, and you can afford it, I think you have your answer.