[mfourn20]

Anyone experienced any problems with their doors in the cold due to the way the window lowers before the door opens and goes back up when closed. Just started having a slight issue with mine...sometimes it can be difficult to get the door fully closed.

Haven't had any snow yet but i can tell this is going to be an issue.

[chaswyck1]

Originally Posted by mfourn20

Anyone experienced any problems with their doors in the cold due to the way the window lowers before the door opens and goes back up when closed. Just started having a slight issue with mine...sometimes it can be difficult to get the door fully closed.

Haven't had any snow yet but i can tell this is going to be an issue.

I hadn't thought of this because I live in Southern CA, but I have spent many years in very cold places. My MINI also does that slight lowering of the window thing. Now that you mention it, how does that work when there's ice?

[NY10]

It's starting to turn very cold in NY I haven't noticed issues with the doors at all my windows still do the open/close thing when the doors open or shut

[M235guy]

Originally Posted by mfourn20

Anyone experienced any problems with their doors in the cold due to the way the window lowers before the door opens and goes back up when closed. Just started having a slight issue with mine...sometimes it can be difficult to get the door fully closed.

Haven't had any snow yet but i can tell this is going to be an issue.

Yes I had this issue I forgot about the window rolling down and my door and window were iced over. Needless to say the door did not fully close and I almost broke the window. It was able to open somehow which is why I forgot.

[mfourn20]

Its almost as if on mine that it takes very little resistance to trip the sensor and make the window not work. It'll go down a tiny tiny bit when there is frost...I'll close the door and it'll catch on the initial closure mechanism by you can still wiggle the door and the window will not respond to any input from the switch.

[overcoil]

I've had freezing after washing my car and can hear the stiction between glass and rubber seals - will apply glycerin to seals today and order Zymol Soft Seal for the future.

[Killramos]

If you wash your car before 0 C dry it and dry it well. Especially the jams and hinges. On this car the windows are a good idea to.

I live in Canada and my car has been fine even in -28 C...

You should be much more concerned about how well your tires are performing at such low temperatures imo.

I just accept that i have to go 3-4 weeks sometimes without a wash. We had 7C yesterday so she got a nice bath...

[golf_234]

Move to Italy and get out of that nightmare of a place. Just kidding. But seriously, use glycerin and Zymol Soft Seal and/or similar products. Also, if you have the actual mechanics go out of sync, where the window isn't dropping and raising properly, there is a reset for it.

[Mark's M]

And on those days when you return to your car and there's been moisture (wet) that's obviously frozen since you last left it, just keep a credit card or similar handy and run it between the side glass and the outside lower rubber window seal. Before you open the door of course.....defeats the purpose if you try to sneak into the car first and get the heat and seats on lol. Works every time. Living in Canada with BMW's and Mini's, you get used to this issue. Tried the silicone once but it just ends up yukking up the glass until it wears off. PITA.

[mfourn20]

I noticed a very thin film of moisture on the window after I lowered it all the way.

The problem here is the weather has been going from 50 degrees and rain yesterday to 25(F) today. There's no time for the car to fully dry before all the tiny bits of trapped moisture freeze.

[2+3=5]

I've had this issue with my 330ci and had the window alternator changed under warranty three times... On really cold days I would leave the windows lower a bit so they could open without touching

During any ice storm I would pour hot water around the window first to melt the ice before attempting to open

Yes it's a pain but that's a drawback with rimless...

Haven't had this issue with my new M235i but cognizant of it... Touch wood!

[jbenington86]

Just be careful not to shut to door very hard when it is cold and there is ice on the side windows. I usually give it a little test fit before fully closing the door to make sure the edge of the glass isn't catching anything. I have tried to close my door hard one time in the winter......never again because the glass was flexing out on the lip of the exterior trim. Nothing bad came from this but I know nothing good would come from this either.

If you are one of the folks that let your vehicle sit for 5 minutes or so after starting it up and you have problems closing the door. All you need to do is put the smallest amount of pressure on the top corner of the window and gently shut the door.

[overcoil]

I was just checking out the seal material on the car that contacts the door window glass.
The rubber that abuts the glass looks very specialized for dealing with freezing temperatures, textured and designed not to tear if frozen.
Very different material then the weatherstripping mounted on the door that compresses against metal or rubber.

The owners manual does read not to use silicon product to treat/clean the rubber seals.

Also, I do think the important technique for using rubber cleaner or glycerin on seals, is to apply the product-wait a few minutes and gently wipe it down, this will get the product onto the porous rubber treating it while getting rid of excess that would schmutz onto the glass or your clothes.

[Killramos]

Originally Posted by jbenington86

Just be careful not to shut to door very hard when it is cold and there is ice on the side windows. I usually give it a little test fit before fully closing the door to make sure the edge of the glass isn't catching anything. I have tried to close my door hard one time in the winter......never again because the glass was flexing out on the lip of the exterior trim. Nothing bad came from this but I know nothing good would come from this either.

No offence but if my BMW breaks because of a fitment issue it is going back to the dealer.

This isnt a kia or a ford, i dont have time for parts not to fit together.

[jbenington86]

Originally Posted by Killramos

No offence but if my BMW breaks because of a fitment issue it is going back to the dealer.

This isnt a kia or a ford, i dont have time for parts not to fit together.

Its not a fitment issue its because you have frozen ice preventing your window from not sealing or in this case dropping and unsealing. Sorry but a window motor is only going to pull the window past the seals with so much ice on them before it is just not strong enough to strip the ice from the bottom 1/8" if your window.

[jbenington86]

What is this a ford or kia?....damn these fitment issues...fit so bad I can't even get in my car.....Yes this is a very extreme response but you get the idea....enough ice and you won't be doing anything.

There is a law in Germany that actually prevents you from idling your car and warming it up. You are suppose to deice before getting in so this is not even a problem here.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by jbenington86

What is this a ford or kia?....damn these fitment issues...fit so bad I can't even get in my car.....Yes this is a very extreme response but you get the idea....enough ice and you won't be doing anything.

I'm guessing MG......

[jbenington86]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I'm guessing MG......

The world may never know......