11-14-2014, 01:28 PM | #67 |
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I think they should move to pay-per-drive model.
In the morning, you put in your credit card, pick your output, pay that amount and you're off. LCD screens on the rear bumper put the appropriate tag on the car. Feel feisty- pay $100 for the day- M3 displays on the trunk. End of the month- only got $20- 320i displays out back. And the car drives accordingly. |
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11-14-2014, 02:34 PM | #68 |
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That sounds way cool! I just ordered some M monogrammed overhead fanshafts and M monogrammed high lift door knobs from Bavarian autosport
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11-14-2014, 03:54 PM | #71 |
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This irritates me because I like things to be consistently named! I understand the x25i/28i/30i and x35i on the previos models with the N52 and N54/55 which both had the same displacement. However, Now we have a 2.0 4cyl in the 228i. This is a great opportunity to fix the names of their model line up. So you name the 228i the 220i, and the 235i the 230i. Considering there is no N52 (unforunately), this sounds like it could be done across the line. But then again, the average sheep consumer is pretty dumb and won't understand why they are paying more money for a lesser model number; or why the latest year car has a lesser model number than the previous year. Oh well, BMWs gotta sell cars right?
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11-14-2014, 04:50 PM | #72 |
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11-14-2014, 08:34 PM | #75 |
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11-14-2014, 10:31 PM | #77 |
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So...I have owned my 2015 M235i with xDrive for over a month now, and love it. I have always lusted after an M but two things have held me back...price and lack of all wheel drive.
I live in the Northeast and while price may not be as much of an issue, all wheel drive is because it has to be a daily driver. I have one garage stall and that's occupied by a 1990 Corvette ZR-1 that I will not sell no matter how badly I want a new M4. So the M235i fit what I was looking for. The damn thing is faster than my ZR-1...not by much but faster...and it will out handle it. So, I feel like given the reviews in the magazine's and the performance comparison to the E46 M3...I've come close to getting whatever it is you want to argue makes a true "M" car. I will, someday get the M4 I've always wanted, but for now, at least I feel like like I'm in a true M. At the end of the day, it comes down to nomenclature semantics. |
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11-14-2014, 11:02 PM | #78 |
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OK I read the entire thread here about the pissin contest between M and non M but does anyone know when the M240 will be able to be ordered in the US? And we are assuming it is 350-360 HP? 340 lb. ft. area?
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11-15-2014, 07:18 AM | #82 |
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There is nothing to add on the ///M marketing debate, all been said before hundreds of times! It's happening, let's just deal with it and realise it's the same trick Audi, VW and Merc use to signify their second to top model...
However some of the new engines coming from the VW group are of significance and BMW will have to up their game when they go with the B engines for the 30 and 40 models and their diesel brethren: - Porsche's imminent 911 turbo engines sound as though they will be a force to be reckoned with. - VW are readying a 4 pot diesel with more BHP than a 330d - Audi are toying with electric turbo charging on a diesel to go into an RS5 - VW are going to produce a 400bhp+ 4 pot petrol for the Golf 400R Game is on |
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11-15-2014, 07:26 AM | #84 | |
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If you like an M car buy it. If you like the M235i or another derivative that is good to. Its all personal choice. The lack of intelligence in this thread is very funny. The overt ego is depressing and confirms how many BMW people are to be avoided as they cannot see beyond a badge. Funny how many times you can spend less and go faster than many M cars. Speed is not exclusive to M or BMW. One day you die and none of this matters and being concerned about a naming convention means one should get a life. Drive more, live more, post less and be nice to other people. M car or not. |
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11-15-2014, 07:50 AM | #85 | |
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I have had the 235 for about 8 months now, and think that I have enough experience to talk about where it falls short for me, hence the post that you quoted. Additionally, criticism of the car does not mean there's a lack of understanding on my part as to what BMW is trying to do with this car. I merely think they have missed the mark. But I appreciate your "teachings" above. Dialogue is why we are on the forums - I just refuse to praise the car at each and every turn. Which is what I see a lot of on the 2er page. Does it do some things well ? Yes, of course. Just not enough of the things I was looking for when I made the decision to get one. Is that subjective ? Absolutely. But that's why the discussion is fun.
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11-15-2014, 07:51 AM | #86 |
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The M owners out there who care that the M235i has an M in its name need to get over it. So what? You can't control how BMW names or markets a vehicle and it is an awesome car.
On the other hand, when one or two of you starts bashing M owners because our cars cost more and retain more value and imply it's all for nothing then you are misguided.
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11-15-2014, 08:31 AM | #87 |
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M235i can't be that good as the M2 will be, but it wasn't built as a hardcore model!
I would like to see some real performance improvements as the naming changes |
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