M235i vs 335i

Blue Streak · 06-23-2014, 07:41 PM

Is it really worth it to buy a similarly optioned 235i over a 335i of the price is within a couple hundred bucks and the weight difference is within 50lbs difference?

hyperzulu · 06-23-2014, 08:01 PM

I don't like how the 335i looks. IMO, it should come standard with a child seat in the rear. But that's just me...

pikcachu · 06-23-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Is it really worth it to buy a similarly optioned 235i over a 335i of the price is within a couple hundred bucks and the weight difference is within 50lbs difference?

couple hundred bucks?

a Msport 335 with sport auto trans, adaptive suspension and M sport brakes is $50k http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=5463666

M235 starts at $43k

bladeomatic · 06-23-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

couple hundred bucks?

a Msport 335 with sport auto trans, adaptive suspension and M sport brakes is $50k http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=5463666

M235 starts at $43k

Agreed. When I ran up the features on a 335i similar to what I got on the M235i, It was almost 8k more. If you need the seats, then the 335i is the way to go. But the M235i:

-quicker
-faster
-stops better
-gets better gas mileage
-corners better
-has a better adaptive suspension (IMO)
-cheaper
-rarer. 3's are everywhere. Folks turn their head for my 235i.
-Is WAY more fun to drive than a 335i IMO.

phoenixbmwlife · 06-23-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Is it really worth it to buy a similarly optioned 235i over a 335i of the price is within a couple hundred bucks and the weight difference is within 50lbs difference?

Did you mean a couple hundred dollars a month difference?

As others have said the price difference is pretty high. Maybe a m235i and a 428 with similar options will be the same but certainly not the 335i.

If you're stuck maybe you should look at other factors like size, feel driving etc.

Blue Streak · 06-23-2014, 09:08 PM

I was pricing the M235 and the 335 Msport with similar options on Edmunds and they both ended up at roughly $50k US. Both with nav, manual, etc, and the weight difference was surprisingly similar.

pikcachu · 06-23-2014, 09:24 PM

well not sure what edmunds is doing but a base M235 is 43k and and equivalent base 335 is $50k as I posted in the link...

There is no way you can price a similar optioned M235 and 335 and have same price... do you have the edmunds pricing sheet for both like you configured them?

options price is similar or a bit more for the 335 so at least there is a 7k difference

Researcher · 06-23-2014, 09:25 PM

335 is a completely different family car and not in the same class and sport than the 235. Comparing a 335 to an M235 is like comparing wine to tequila..... Price is not the right equation that counts in this comparison.

DanG · 06-23-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

well not sure what edmunds is doing but a base M235 is 43k and and equivalent base 335 is $50k as I posted in the link...

There is no way you can price a similar optioned M235 and 335 and have same price... do you have the edmunds pricing sheet for both like you configured them?

options price is similar or a bit more for the 335 so at least there is a 7k difference

+1

No way are they the same price.

Neckbeardz · 06-23-2014, 10:03 PM

Maybe a base model 335i without the M performance packages might price close to a M235i, but then the M235i would run circles around the 335i.

///M235i · 06-23-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeomatic

Agreed. When I ran up the features on a 335i similar to what I got on the M235i, It was almost 8k more. If you need the seats, then the 335i is the way to go. But the M235i:

-quicker
-faster
-stops better
-gets better gas mileage
-corners better
-has a better adaptive suspension (IMO)
-cheaper
-rarer. 3's are everywhere. Folks turn their head for my 235i.
-Is WAY more fun to drive than a 335i IMO.

She is definitely a head turner. If you go out of your way to not attract attention get a three series and you will blend in with the masses incognito.

phoenixbmwlife · 06-23-2014, 10:13 PM

Did you put the MSport package? Cause the M235i comes with it standard but cost $3,100 on the 335i. Also selecting Dynamic Handling Package with MSport package is not available which is another $1,000 on the 335i but comes standard on the M235i. The automatic transmission with paddle shifters cost $500 when it's standard on the M235i. The MSport brakes cost $650 which again is standard on the M235i. Plus it's faster than the 335i. Total cost of $5250 extra on an 335i that's standard on a less MSRP in the M235i. And now you have to add premium, technology, and whatever else you want that brings the price in the high 50s.

Let's face it, the M235i with it's standard features has great value compared to other BMWs in the lineup.

///M235i · 06-23-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bennu

Did you put the MSport package? Cause the M235i comes with it standard but cost $3,100 on the 335i. Also selecting Dynamic Handling Package with MSport package is not available which is another $1,000 on the 335i but comes standard on the M235i. The automatic transmission with paddle shifters cost $500 when it's standard on the M235i. The MSport brakes cost $650 which again is standard on the M235i. Plus it's faster than the 335i. Total cost of $5250 extra on an 335i that's standard on a less MSRP in the M235i. And now you have to add premium, technology, and whatever else you want that brings the price in the high 50s.

Let's face it, the M235i with it's standard features has great value compared to other BMWs in the lineup.

Tru dat

Blue Streak · 06-23-2014, 10:26 PM

Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i.

phoenixbmwlife · 06-23-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i.

I hope someone will weigh one soon. I'm waiting for my car to get here from ED. Going to dyno it, weigh it then add jb4 II with CAI and then dyno it again to see the gains.

mankid247 · 06-23-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i.

If your thinking of the weight in terms of affecting speed and acceleration, I have a fully loaded stock m235 and my brother has a 2014 335 with an intake dinan exhaust a stage 1 jb tune and light weight HRE forged rims and my car still is faster than his...

Blue Streak · 06-23-2014, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mankid247

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i.

If your thinking of the weight in terms of affecting speed and acceleration, I have a fully loaded stock m235 and my brother has a 2014 335 with an intake dinan exhaust a stage 1 jb tune and light weight HRE forged rims and my car still is faster than his...

That's good to know. I was thinking power to weight. Do both have the same transmission?

///M235i · 06-23-2014, 11:19 PM

I've never seen such a bunch of weight conscious guys in my life. :/) you guys are worse than every gal I've ever known. :/)

Now, here's brilliance, if you're so weight sensitive for your car, would you go on a diet and shed some poundage just for speed gains? This sounds like a Dr. Phil show in the making…

pikcachu · 06-23-2014, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Streak

Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i.

probably cause the M235i comes with a lot of more standard equipment that adds weight... and the 335 weight you see it's for the base model without all the standard stuff that the M235 already has....

pikcachu · 06-23-2014, 11:23 PM

but don't take anybody's word for it.... test and M235 and a 335 back to back and make your own conclusions....

Blue Streak · 06-23-2014, 11:53 PM

Well I have a 335i with the N54 now, tuned and modified and it is as fast as I would want it. A lighter weight car with similar power and good suspension would be nice. I'm just seeing about the same weight and smaller dimensions in the M235i and still close to $50k thinking it's not quite worth it. I'm sure I'll have to drive it to find out.

pikcachu · 06-24-2014, 02:03 AM

I see your point..... I would probably keep your 335 then....

I mean the m235 has some nice features like tire pressure and temp, laptimer etc....
but your 335 is pretty sure more powerful then...

I have to say the M235 sounds really good...

But the original question was... if you were to buy a new car, would you buy a M235 or a 335.... and the answer to this I would say is buy the M235 cause it's cheaper, faster and lighter.... unless you need the extra seats....

Now if you already have a modified 335 and you have no mechanical issues... I don't see how you can justify spending $50k.... I guess it depends how much you can get for your 335 but with all the mods might be a tough sell

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hyperzulu Colonel 701 Rep 2,337 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	I don't like how the 335i looks. IMO, it should come standard with a child seat in the rear. But that's just me...
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Blue Streak Gunny 30 Rep 623 Posts Drives: '07 E90 335i 6MT, 2016 F10 535 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335i [9.00]	I was pricing the M235 and the 335 Msport with similar options on Edmunds and they both ended up at roughly $50k US. Both with nav, manual, etc, and the weight difference was surprisingly similar. __________________ 2007 E90 335i 6MT, ZSP, Nav, PDC, CA, Montego Blue, Terra Dakota leather, CDV, clutch-stop, E46 M Shift Knob, Logic HVI, JB4 PnP, MS 3" downpipes, Koni Yellow adjustable sport shocks, RE 12mm(f)/BMS 15mm(r) spacers, Blacklines, LUX 5.0 LED halo ring lights, DAEOS (Vista) harness, GP Thunder 7500k fogs, 35% sides-20% rear tint, matt black kidney grill, matt black 335i trunk badge
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pikcachu Major General 1403 Rep 5,262 Posts Drives: M235i (F22 Red angel) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: undisclosed iTrader: (1)	well not sure what edmunds is doing but a base M235 is 43k and and equivalent base 335 is $50k as I posted in the link... There is no way you can price a similar optioned M235 and 335 and have same price... do you have the edmunds pricing sheet for both like you configured them? options price is similar or a bit more for the 335 so at least there is a 7k difference
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Researcher Private 20 Rep 80 Posts Drives: MG M235i / C7 3LT Z51 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mars. iTrader: (0)	335 is a completely different family car and not in the same class and sport than the 235. Comparing a 335 to an M235 is like comparing wine to tequila..... Price is not the right equation that counts in this comparison.
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Blue Streak Gunny 30 Rep 623 Posts Drives: '07 E90 335i 6MT, 2016 F10 535 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335i [9.00]	Okay guys. You sold me on the M235i. What's the true weight of an optioned M235i? I was hoping about 150-200lbs less than a similarly equipped 335i. __________________ 2007 E90 335i 6MT, ZSP, Nav, PDC, CA, Montego Blue, Terra Dakota leather, CDV, clutch-stop, E46 M Shift Knob, Logic HVI, JB4 PnP, MS 3" downpipes, Koni Yellow adjustable sport shocks, RE 12mm(f)/BMS 15mm(r) spacers, Blacklines, LUX 5.0 LED halo ring lights, DAEOS (Vista) harness, GP Thunder 7500k fogs, 35% sides-20% rear tint, matt black kidney grill, matt black 335i trunk badge
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///M235i Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 289 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Here iTrader: (0)	I've never seen such a bunch of weight conscious guys in my life. :/) you guys are worse than every gal I've ever known. :/) Now, here's brilliance, if you're so weight sensitive for your car, would you go on a diet and shed some poundage just for speed gains? This sounds like a Dr. Phil show in the making…
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pikcachu Major General 1403 Rep 5,262 Posts Drives: M235i (F22 Red angel) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: undisclosed iTrader: (1)	but don't take anybody's word for it.... test and M235 and a 335 back to back and make your own conclusions....
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Blue Streak Gunny 30 Rep 623 Posts Drives: '07 E90 335i 6MT, 2016 F10 535 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335i [9.00]	Well I have a 335i with the N54 now, tuned and modified and it is as fast as I would want it. A lighter weight car with similar power and good suspension would be nice. I'm just seeing about the same weight and smaller dimensions in the M235i and still close to $50k thinking it's not quite worth it. I'm sure I'll have to drive it to find out. __________________ 2007 E90 335i 6MT, ZSP, Nav, PDC, CA, Montego Blue, Terra Dakota leather, CDV, clutch-stop, E46 M Shift Knob, Logic HVI, JB4 PnP, MS 3" downpipes, Koni Yellow adjustable sport shocks, RE 12mm(f)/BMS 15mm(r) spacers, Blacklines, LUX 5.0 LED halo ring lights, DAEOS (Vista) harness, GP Thunder 7500k fogs, 35% sides-20% rear tint, matt black kidney grill, matt black 335i trunk badge
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pikcachu Major General 1403 Rep 5,262 Posts Drives: M235i (F22 Red angel) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: undisclosed iTrader: (1)	I see your point..... I would probably keep your 335 then.... I mean the m235 has some nice features like tire pressure and temp, laptimer etc.... but your 335 is pretty sure more powerful then... I have to say the M235 sounds really good... But the original question was... if you were to buy a new car, would you buy a M235 or a 335.... and the answer to this I would say is buy the M235 cause it's cheaper, faster and lighter.... unless you need the extra seats.... Now if you already have a modified 335 and you have no mechanical issues... I don't see how you can justify spending $50k.... I guess it depends how much you can get for your 335 but with all the mods might be a tough sell
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