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      11-21-2017, 09:11 PM   #23
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Coming from a rwd is250 and an awd is350, I can tell you with confidence you will probably love the 2 series platform way more than anything from Lexus.

I personally recommend the rwd platform with a manual, even if it is slower. The zf8 auto is a beast in its own right. You can't really go wrong.
Ah i have a manual jeep (stretched wheelbase, 37's, the works) that i built and love to off-road with (and drive around a bit in) but i work 1 hour each way HORRIBLE traffic. it's brutal. so no manual.

and yes as much as i love lexus, due to their adherence to testing everything 82397293 times, they are usually a generation or 2 behind other luxury car makes.... even their performance machines often use some old tech...sigh...
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      11-21-2017, 09:31 PM   #24
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Coming from a rwd is250 and an awd is350, I can tell you with confidence you will probably love the 2 series platform way more than anything from Lexus.

I personally recommend the rwd platform with a manual, even if it is slower. The zf8 auto is a beast in its own right. You can't really go wrong.
Ah i have a manual jeep (stretched wheelbase, 37's, the works) that i built and love to off-road with (and drive around a bit in) but i work 1 hour each way HORRIBLE traffic. it's brutal. so no manual.

and yes as much as i love lexus, due to their adherence to testing everything 82397293 times, they are usually a generation or 2 behind other luxury car makes.... even their performance machines often use some old tech...sigh...
Nice! Has yours held up well? I went through so many warranty and service bulletins with the make that I just gave up. My wife still has a ct200h which has held up relatively well minus a few minor issues.

I must have had bad luck with the brand because despite numerous claims of Lexus reliability, I find ze German engineering to be way better. As long as you can acknowledge proper maintenance.
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My wife has an lexus es350 that has been bullet proof and my GS 350 has been quite good as well... So yes I've had good experiences with them. Butt very unexciting sadly.

(I presume you weren't asking about Jeep reliability lol.and my jeep is now 20 years old...so it's hard to say. Granted it's never left me stranded and I torture that thing).

So it looks like the b58 with tune/bolt ons might get me there. Vs n55 with tune and bolt ons and meth? And maybe fuel?

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      11-22-2017, 01:56 PM   #26
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[QUOTE=mattds;22452756]My wife has an estimate es350 that has been bullet proof and my garage has been quite good as well... So yes I've had good experiences with them. Butt very unexciting sadly.

(I presume you weren't asking about Jeep reliability lol.and my jeep is now 20 years old...so it's hard to say. Granted it's never left me stranded and I torture that thing).

So it looks like the b58 with tune/bolt ons might get me there. Vs n55 with tune and bolt ons and meth? And maybe fuel?
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      11-23-2017, 10:31 PM   #27
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Now that I think about it I haven't seen luminous is a while. He had an xdrive and upgraded the turbo. I believe his personal best was 3.1 or maybe 3.3 on stock all season tires.
his f22 has been parted out and hes in a m3 these days...
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      11-24-2017, 07:25 AM   #28
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1/4 mile times

It is very easy to get caught up in 1/4 mile times and they are a good indicator or comparison tool for the type of performance you can expect from an engine/transmission. For us older drivers who grew up in the muscle car era this was the only thing thing that mattered but those cars were horrible to drive and couldn't come close to a European car on a road course. What you need is a balance between power and handling and this is what the new BMW and Audi cars give you. I love the off the line acceleration on my 235 but take on some nice windy, hilly back roads and let it loose. I guarantee you'll be amazed at the exhilaration, the incredible handle of the X-Drive and the way power is delivered. I have friends with F-type Jag and Z4's and my 235 X-drive walks away from them. Performance is more than one dimensional. When reading about many cars you'll see that they are always comparing them against a BMW model, there is a reason for this.
Ultimately you have buy what feels good to you! If you can go out with a friend on some nice twisty roads I guarantee you'll be impressed.
Good luck in your quest.
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Makes sense. Can the thirst for more power ever really be sated? I thought putting on a tune would get me there but now I want to upgrade the turbo. Once that is done, I'll probably be in an m3.

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his f22 has been parted out and hes in a m3 these days...
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      11-24-2017, 09:14 AM   #30
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well continue on my way to work of course...at the speed limit

I sort of think the 0-60 time is one of the few performance measures you can mostly exploit legally.
Couldn't agree more. While track and "twistie's" seem to be the measure of performance for some, the majority of owners only judge their car's performance when they step on the accelerator.

Certainly there are other choices that can do it for less $. However, if one wants to own a smaller BMW that looks rather un-assuming in traffic but can deliver great performance, why not?

FWIW, BMW advertises the M2 w/ a 0-60 time @ 4.0. Yet, in comparisons between the M240i (advertised @ 4.4 0-60) and the M2 (guys playing with rolling races) the two cars are actually pretty close in straight line acceleration. I would think that adding a decent tune to the car (M240i) would put it securely @ 4 sec -0-60 or maybe one tick below on a good day.

Many concede that a tuned M240i will beat the stock M2 in a straight line race. Not taking anything away from the M2. Add a tune to it and it will likely beat the M240i and do markedly better on the track too.

So to answer your question, yes, it is more than feasible to get a 3.9 0-60 result from a few bolt on additions to the M240i (and in all probability the M235i too)
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Makes sense. Can the thirst for more power ever really be sated? I thought putting on a tune would get me there but now I want to upgrade the turbo. Once that is done, I'll probably be in an m3.

by the time you factor in cost of a PI kit, Inlet kit, and ps2 kit, thats your down payment on a m4/m3...
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      11-24-2017, 11:46 AM   #32
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by the time you factor in cost of a PI kit, Inlet kit, and ps2 kit, thats your down payment on a m4/m3...
Excellent point. I try to keep telling myself I should be happy with what I got since it's a beast already. I think I just need to drive an m3/4 to see how I really feel. Since I'm not a fan of big cars, I don't think I will really like it but who knows.

I do love my 2er though.
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Not really a fan of the m3/m4 myself either.
Waiting for the m2 csl to make the move to something new.

By then, it will probably have the new engine, or at least the 440hp s55, cage, and lightweight parts and be super limited and collectable.
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      11-24-2017, 06:19 PM   #34
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If you want 0-60 it's the RS3 in this price range IMO.

10.55 second 1/4 miles on a tune w/ no bolt ons.
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If you want 0-60 it's the RS3 in this price range IMO.

10.55 second 1/4 miles on a tune w/ no bolt ons.
Tune, R compound tires, ethanol, and 150lb of interior stripped to get those times.

But yeah, for consistent sub 4 second 0-60 stock, RS3 would be the way to go.
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OP was asking whether he could get an M235i or M240i to run 0-60 in less than 4 seconds.

There are a number of cars he could buy that that can run under 4 seconds, but that doesn't really answer his question.
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BMW Canada advertises 4.4s 0-100kph for a 240 xDrive https://www.bmw.ca/en/all-models/2-s...ata.html#tab-3. That translates to about a 4.2 0-60mph. Given the German's habits of being conservative on the performance arena a stock 240 xDrive is likely right on the 4s 0-60 out straight from the dealer.
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HI there,
i'm seriously looking at an m235/240 xdrive or a infiniti q60 red sport. I think i prefer the BMW for a number of reasons. (i should add i'm coming from a recent lexus GS 350 awd)

I've read through the forums for the past few weeks and think i have a fairly good idea of the performance potential in terms of dyno numbers. But i'm not really clear on how those numbers equate to performance exactly. I know the 0-60 is only a single metric, but personally i would very much like a car that could do it.

Would a tune (piggy back or flash depending on which engine i think) and downpipe get me there with an n55? I can only run 94 octane...no access to E85 as i'm in Toronto Canada.

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yes here are my numbers at 4,970 altitude
Without launch control best time 4.0
With launch control best time 3.0
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