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335i M Sport versus M235i?
I'm torn between the two. I can get the F30 335i M Sport w/ all the options I want this Friday, or I can wait 2-3 months and get the M235i.
What's making me hesitate? 1. M235i looks like it'll handle better, but how much better? Will it be noticeable on the street? 2. Acceleration 0-60. They are close, but with the tuned N55 in the M235i it edges it out. Not really too concerned about this as I am about handling and steering feel. But I want BMWs latest and greatest if you know what I mean. 3. Exhaust sound. Videos of the M235i using its launch control and taking off just sounds sweet. I haven't heard the 335i in person, but I also read that it sounds pretty nice. 4. M235i is the new, hot thing. I can get one for $500 over invoice, so I'll end up paying about $25 less than the 335i. BUT the 335i will be loaded to no end, as I'm getting that below invoice and there are tons of 3-series incentives piled on top of that. What do you think? Should I go for the more spartan "drivers car," or get some of the performance with the 335i and enjoy all the refinement that goes with it. Thanks! Last edited by AgentCircus; 01-21-2014 at 03:56 PM.. |
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M235i All Day!!! No question for me. Just love everything about its ideology. The only factor I could see being at hand would be sedan vs. coupe. Everything is a win on the 2. Test drove a 335i the other day, and it was cool, but kind of a dog in comparison to my 1er and what I expect the 2 to be.
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This just does it for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=lQ2YmBc2ZG8
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Having owned an E82 135i and had a number of E9x loaner cars, I'd posit that the F3x will handle better, feel more stable and have a smoother ride than the F22 due to the longer wheelbase.
The one big possible exception for the F22 M235i though is that it doesn't come with Run Flats, so if it's actually tuned for that, it could possibly make up for the shortcoming of the shorter wheelbase and out handle a stock F3x and possibly even have better suspension tuning, not the slow compression, fast rebound BMW has used since switching non M cars to RFT's. Just remember that roughly the same weight spread across the F32 wheelbase of 110.6 vs the F22 105.9 with the same basic width should give the F32 more stability but the F22 more ready turn in. |
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That's an impressive deal to get a loaded 335i M Sport for the same price as an M235i. Most of the ways I build it the 335i is about $6-7K more based on MSRP for both. I'm really torn as well because the M235i looks brilliant, but I think the sedan will be more practical for my needs, and sadly the M235i is a heavy little bugger. There's not much of a apparent weight penalty to get the 335i.
What I do see is the $7K difference and the fact that the M235i is the hot new thing. I just wish BMW had bestowed a better color palette for the F80 M3. The lack of a desirable color makes me lean towards saving the money, plus I don't see why I should pay $2900 to have a DCT.. How I wish that EBII/MCB/etc was an available option rather than smurf blue.
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After incentives and dealer discount it ends up being $2250 below invoice on the 335i, which is what brings the payments so close. The best I can get on the M235i is $500 above invoice, (and that's only because I worked another deal on an X5). There are no incentives at all on the 2 right now either.
Practical side: Get the 335i. After hearing that exhaust in the Autospy vid: M235i! I'd take an M3 in any color (except black)! But speaking of colors, not sure if you've used the 2-series builder on BMWs site. But if you choose orange for the 228i, it doesn't let you choose M Sport! I guess they didn't want a 228i looking better than than the M235i! And orange isn't even available on the M235i... |
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I was in the exact same spot, and I finally pulled the trigger on the m235i.
335 is a fantastic car, but the steering is painfully numb, and from what I can tell based on the reviews I have read, the 2 steering seems to be an improvement, although not ideal. The m235i has a great exhaust note, and will most likely be a great car for both highway and back country journey's. There are so many 3's on the road, even though most are bare bones 328i's, but to the untrained eye, an M sport 3 is just another 3. That said, the 3 is probably better looking, but I wanted to go in a new direction. Time will tell if I made the right call.
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I'm thinking it's going to be 335i at this point. I'll get an M Performance or M Car the next go-around haha.
One thing that did bug me about the M235i is that the Auto-dimming rearview mirror is apparently only available w/ the Premium Package. If anyone else was annoyed by this, there is a workaround: order the Automatic Brights option for $250 and the Auto-dimming rearview mirror gets added for free. Now if I could only find a workaround to get BMW Apps w/o having to get nav! |
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Im in the same boat, but im in no rush. Do i get the 335 with 2 extra doors or a coupe with better dynamics??
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I think that's really the discussion. F30 335 + MPPK and MPE and maybe the MPS and the then the diff is what from the M235i? Driving dynamics vs 2 extra doors as you said. Even without those, its only an incremental difference which may not matter to you... Plus you can get those installed as you learn you need them on your own schedule.
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Just saw the above quote in C&D's First Drive review of the M235i. I figured it was relevant.
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I too have been caught in this position. My dealer and I took out a F30 335i and an M135i for a drive.
The M135i pissed all over the 335i, the decision to order the M235i was easy. The 335i seemed slow and sluggish compared to the M135i (nearest comparison to the M235i). There's nothing more to consider, but think about where you will be in 12 months time. What decision will you regret more? Waiting 2 months for your dream car? Or taking something lesser simply because it was there? |
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A M235i is about 4 seconds faster at Hockenheim short than a 335i M Sport fwiw. 335i is more practical for sure Edit: Comparable 435iA MSport on 19 inch Potenzas had a 1:18.2 Sportauto tracktime @ Hockenheim Kurz. 1M did it in 1:14.1. That's about 4 seconds Cheers Robin Last edited by Robin_NL; 01-22-2014 at 05:46 AM.. |
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