New 2 Series Gran Coupe rumors? [Updated with first spy photos]

ORIGIN M. · 05-30-2015, 02:26 AM

We'll see...

tke743 · 05-30-2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YungDro

I'd buy a M235i GC

As would I, if this comes true my m235i goes in immediately for a m235i GC. (Assuming it isn't based on the blasphemous FWD based 1 series.) Even better if they were to go M2 GC.

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

SO many E36M3/4 and E46 zhp sedan folks that are like this.

Yes, I came from a zhp sedan, this would be awesome.

DSTR · 05-30-2015, 03:24 AM

On the cover of auto-motor-und-sport

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...2-9604464.html

silverbeet25 · 05-30-2015, 04:53 AM

the entire 2 series line-up is just so confusing... I say rename the active tourer and grand tourer

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bunker · 05-30-2015, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by W///

I hope they do a 2er Touring just to piss you off.

I'd buy it too.

Make it an M2 touring and I'd buy the entire allocation just so nobody else but me could have one.

prime300 · 05-30-2015, 07:26 AM

That would be awesome

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by ynotony

So they're finally making a modern 3 series? Great!

I've been hoping for the return of a compact RWD sedan to BMW's lineup.

SO many E36M3/4 and E46 zhp sedan folks that are like this.

YES! Please! I need something to replace my e46 and I want it to be a small rear wheel drive sedan with modern features! Please please please bring this to market! I know about 5 other people who would buy it was well! Please!

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by prime300

That would be awesome

YES! Now this gets me excited! God I hope BMW makes this

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by challer

I'd buy a M2 Gran Coupe in a heartbeat.

Yes I would too!

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MThree_driver

They're going to have to do something with the 2-GC to differentiate it from the 320/328. Either make it (dare I say) fwd, or not put some features in it. Otherwise there goes the 320 sales..and an m235 GC would be a much better value than a 328

Who cares at least people wouldn't be buying a CLA or A3. My sister is in the market for this exact car. And if it was on the lots right now I guarantee she would have bought one. and I would be next in line

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The project has been re-instated by the new CEO.

Finally someone running BMW with some heart! I'm starting to like this guy

SamS · 05-30-2015, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thorsen82

i think that 2gc will eventually ride in f20 platform

Nope. The F20 platform is 5 years old and due for replacement soon.

From the original report:

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Since a 2-Series Gran Coupe will be built on a platform shared with the 3, 5 and 7 Series - each model featuring a different wheelbase and track width

^^ That's describing the 35UP platform, i.e. a Gxx chassis.

W/// · 05-30-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ynotony

Interesting, I decided to whip up a comparison of the dimensions of the e36 and f22.

As it turns out, the f22 is slightly wider and slightly taller, with a slightly shorter wheelbase, but otherwise I'd say they are the "same" size.

Great post! Thanks for sharing. I had no idea they were so similarly matched. It really didn't look like it

gvega702 · 05-30-2015, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by left123

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Originally Posted by MThree_driver

They're going to have to do something with the 2-GC to differentiate it from the 320/328. Either make it (dare I say) fwd, or not put some features in it. Otherwise there goes the 320 sales..and an m235 GC would be a much better value than a 328

Honestly the 320i is for people who don't really care about BMW other than name. I think the 2GC though would appeal to us enthusiasts and that is a definite market. Plus they could sell some stripped out models for, like they said, lower end luxury leases.

I see a business case for both even if they overlap, as others have said.

Actually you've got it wrong. it's the other way around. don't Disparage 320 buyers..

the 320 *exists* only because BMW is all about keeping the crown for the midsize sport(y) sedan market in sales (3/4 vs C class vs Audi )

They never thought of a 2 series gran coupe because they so focused on, and thought they might lose some 3/4 sales.
When the competition got close last year.. they hurried up a 320 to market to boost sales with some cheap lease prices.

Don't blame buyers ... they just were looking for a compact sedan from BMW that ain't 50K.

That car should have been on the lot for those buyers.. .... in the form of a 1 series sedan.. or 2 series gran coupe...

The buyers that didn't bite on the 320, or... more importantly.. the part that BMW forgot.. BUYERS THAT WANT A COMPACT SEDAN, are now driving CLAs and Audi models that competitors brought out by reintroducing the compact sedan segment that BMW dominated with the E30, E36 and E46.

Yes you are correct. The bean counters got the best of BMW's attempt at a reasonably priced compact sedan. Which resulted in a 320i

marcva · 05-30-2015, 09:46 AM

All of the e36 die hards now have something to migrate to. My m3/4 is still pretty strong since I have been preserving it and updating it, but this would start me shopping.

TheBingoBalls · 05-30-2015, 09:55 AM

Doesn't make sense. So the 2er Gran Coupe would use a different chassis (CLAR) than the 2er coupe (FWD)? I don't buy it.

vstM3 · 05-30-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by challer

I'd buy a M2 Gran Coupe in a heartbeat.

Yes, please! Give me a 4 door M2 by 2018

W/// · 05-30-2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bunker

Make it an M2 touring and I'd buy the entire allocation just so nobody else but me could have one.

You better sell me one. That would be a car I'd be super excited about. There aren't enough wagons int he world.

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Originally Posted by marcva

All of the e36 die hards now have something to migrate to. My m3/4 is still pretty strong since I have been preserving it and updating it, but this would start me shopping.

Agreed. But I'd consider keeping the E36 as well. They are going up in value and I'd love to own both.

I'm getting way too excited about this 2GC and chances are it might not even make it too production

M3 Adjuster · 05-30-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by petalmasher

Well, I can see the need for a 4-door version since competitors are using the extra doors as a selling point. it certainly makes more sense than the 4 series grand coupe, which is the 4-door version of the 4 series coupe which is the 2-door version of a 4-door 3 series sedan.

Exactly!

Ramos · 05-30-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Doesn't make sense. So the 2er Gran Coupe would use a different chassis (CLAR) than the 2er coupe (FWD)? I don't buy it.

That's what I tried to get Scott26 to comment on but he ignored my question.

TheFleetingFox · 05-30-2015, 03:23 PM

Not sure why people are hating on the model expansion.

For a LOT of us, the 3 series is too big a car.

I have a 3, and wanted a 4 next. Saw the 2 and am now in love.

People like my GF, or anyone with the desire for a small car with 4 doors would fall head over heels in love with a 2 GC.

Right price, right features..... everyone can love it.

Let the 3 series become the smaller 5 BMW (and China) wants it to become..... we will still have this.

SamS · 05-30-2015, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramos

That's what I tried to get Scott26 to comment on but he ignored my question.

Who said the next-gen 2er coupe would be FWD?

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marcva Captain 378 Rep 647 Posts Drives: E36 M345 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA iTrader: (0)	All of the e36 die hards now have something to migrate to. My m3/4 is still pretty strong since I have been preserving it and updating it, but this would start me shopping.
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TheBingoBalls Brigadier General 3821 Rep 4,661 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 F36 BMW 440i x ... [0.00]	Doesn't make sense. So the 2er Gran Coupe would use a different chassis (CLAR) than the 2er coupe (FWD)? I don't buy it.
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TheFleetingFox New Member 3 Rep 16 Posts Drives: F30 328i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Not sure why people are hating on the model expansion. For a LOT of us, the 3 series is too big a car. I have a 3, and wanted a 4 next. Saw the 2 and am now in love. People like my GF, or anyone with the desire for a small car with 4 doors would fall head over heels in love with a 2 GC. Right price, right features..... everyone can love it. Let the 3 series become the smaller 5 BMW (and China) wants it to become..... we will still have this.
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