Oh My!

qballis · 07-21-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Delnari

Sounds like you need to leave everything stock; which you said you did. Double check all you sensors.wires are connected properly; reseat them. Try clearing the codes again. If same code comes up then you will need to take it to BMW for diagnostic check. Be prepared get charged for the repair work.

Why would this not be covered under warranty completely if everything is back to stock?

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 01:47 PM

It is... So far...

HX_Guy · 07-21-2014, 01:48 PM

Its stuff like this that makes me want to leave the car stock, expect for an MPE possibly. Car is plenty fast for me I think.

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 01:52 PM

That's what I'm doing from this point on..

I'll be honest... I WILL miss the added power...

If I never had it... If never miss it.

Maybe in a year or so, with more history I'll try again.

HX_Guy · 07-21-2014, 02:19 PM

Aside from the potential problems, the rough idling is a deal breaker for me at this point. I know it's only for 10 seconds or so, but to me this is supposed to be a luxury vehicle, a sporty one at that, but still luxury and I don't want it to feel anything but 100% stock smooth.

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 02:35 PM

I didn't really notice rough idling. Maybe others have.

Anyway... I'm done with BMS... Please see new thread.

kerm1t · 07-21-2014, 02:46 PM

sry if this was addressed, but did you try going back to stock? if that solves the problem if can be your install.

have you tried updating JB4 Firmware? Have to tried reverting back to stock firmware?

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 02:50 PM

Did all that.

No joy.

ska///235i · 07-21-2014, 02:57 PM

A quick N54 BMS intake google search and you'll see millions of the same issue

But the jb4 suppose to clear tue codes

soghetto · 07-21-2014, 03:37 PM

so what exactly happened here? you installed an intake and it broke your turbo pressure sensor?

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 03:39 PM

It does appear that... No problems what-so-ever, intake was on for 5-6 Miles...

Then....blamo... In non-scientific terms.

Delnari · 07-21-2014, 03:50 PM

At this point BMS is not accepting blame for the bad sensor that occurred immediately after installing their intake? Did they give a reason why they believe it wasn't the intake that cause the problem?

What did BMW say when you took the car in with it back in Stock form? Really like to hear both sides of this so we can figure out what happen.

Ohio Army Man · 07-21-2014, 03:52 PM

BMW is fine.

This is what I got from that fine company BMS, regarding the return.

"The intake is not returnable per our terms and conditions"

Again... Use ANY other company, if this is how they treat people.

soghetto · 07-21-2014, 03:58 PM

damn, sorry to hear. takes some of the fun out of modding.

curious how you make out at the dealer..

hyperzulu · 07-21-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MD Air Guard

BMW is fine.

This is what I got from that fine company BMS, regarding the return.

"The intake is not returnable per our terms and conditions"

Again... Use ANY other company, if this is how they treat people.

Wow. That's like asking a girl out and she says no because she has to go out to dinner with family and never offers another day as an alternative. Rip up their number and never call again.

rickinaz · 07-21-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by qballis

Why would this not be covered under warranty completely if everything is back to stock?

Are you asking whether seeking warranty coverage is ethical...or, whether the cover-up would be detected?

qballis · 07-21-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rickinaz

Are you asking whether seeking warranty coverage is ethical...or, whether the cover-up would be detected?

The latter. Will it be detected?

BLK235iNJ · 07-21-2014, 07:15 PM

Not to derail but this is why I rather pay a premium for aftermarket vendors that back their products with warranty.

dharo1 · 07-21-2014, 08:06 PM

Sucks!!!

bernstem · 07-22-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by qballis

The latter. Will it be detected?

It probably won't be detected, but it probably isn't ethical either and withholding information may make it harder to diagnose the problem. There is also the interesting issue that if someone lies about aftermarket parts and gets caught, I don't see anyone being interested in helping them with a warranty claim.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-23-2014, 07:08 PM

An intake won't blow your "turbo sensor" but a JB4 problem could cause a TMAP sensor error. Since you can't connect to the JB4 it sounds like it is fried.

Apparently some customers have had their USB cable touch the near by battery rail which blows out the JB4 board and sometimes the TMAP ground. BMS is well versed in helping you resolve this issue if it comes up and the fix is fairly easy.

The JB4 F30 install guide was also recently updated with directions for the fix.

Mike

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Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	It is... So far...
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HX_Guy Captain 119 Rep 623 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW M235i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0)	Its stuff like this that makes me want to leave the car stock, expect for an MPE possibly. Car is plenty fast for me I think.
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Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	That's what I'm doing from this point on.. I'll be honest... I WILL miss the added power... If I never had it... If never miss it. Maybe in a year or so, with more history I'll try again.
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HX_Guy Captain 119 Rep 623 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW M235i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0)	Aside from the potential problems, the rough idling is a deal breaker for me at this point. I know it's only for 10 seconds or so, but to me this is supposed to be a luxury vehicle, a sporty one at that, but still luxury and I don't want it to feel anything but 100% stock smooth.
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Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	I didn't really notice rough idling. Maybe others have. Anyway... I'm done with BMS... Please see new thread.
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kerm1t Captain 169 Rep 926 Posts Drives: 17 M3 ZCP Stage 2 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	sry if this was addressed, but did you try going back to stock? if that solves the problem if can be your install. have you tried updating JB4 Firmware? Have to tried reverting back to stock firmware?
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Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Did all that. No joy.
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ska///235i ***** noob 1368 Rep 10,479 Posts Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (34) Garage List 2006 325xi [0.00]	A quick N54 BMS intake google search and you'll see millions of the same issue But the jb4 suppose to clear tue codes __________________ 2006 325xi (Sold) 2014 M235I (Current) 2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
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soghetto Private First Class 12 Rep 195 Posts Drives: MY14 MG M235i 8-AT Join Date: May 2014 Location: all over the interwebs iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 m235i [10.00]	so what exactly happened here? you installed an intake and it broke your turbo pressure sensor?
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07-21-2014, 03:39 PM	#33
Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	It does appear that... No problems what-so-ever, intake was on for 5-6 Miles... Then....blamo... In non-scientific terms.
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Delnari Major 256 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2014 MG F22 Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (2)	At this point BMS is not accepting blame for the bad sensor that occurred immediately after installing their intake? Did they give a reason why they believe it wasn't the intake that cause the problem? What did BMW say when you took the car in with it back in Stock form? Really like to hear both sides of this so we can figure out what happen.
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Ohio Army Man Private First Class 14 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	BMW is fine. This is what I got from that fine company BMS, regarding the return. "The intake is not returnable per our terms and conditions" Again... Use ANY other company, if this is how they treat people.
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soghetto Private First Class 12 Rep 195 Posts Drives: MY14 MG M235i 8-AT Join Date: May 2014 Location: all over the interwebs iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 m235i [10.00]	damn, sorry to hear. takes some of the fun out of modding. curious how you make out at the dealer..
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BLK235iNJ Captain 182 Rep 926 Posts Drives: m235i,13MustangGT,84C10,99A8 Join Date: May 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Not to derail but this is why I rather pay a premium for aftermarket vendors that back their products with warranty.
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4912 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	An intake won't blow your "turbo sensor" but a JB4 problem could cause a TMAP sensor error. Since you can't connect to the JB4 it sounds like it is fried. Apparently some customers have had their USB cable touch the near by battery rail which blows out the JB4 board and sometimes the TMAP ground. BMS is well versed in helping you resolve this issue if it comes up and the fix is fairly easy. The JB4 F30 install guide was also recently updated with directions for the fix. Mike
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