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Well, obviously many who actually drives or had a real experience with 1M thinks otherwise, which includes very much the pro driver in this video. Here is a comparo from fastest laps, another 4 track lap times quoted between the two...result is the same (God save us all): http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/l...r_m_coupe.html
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We all know that it is mostly marketing, but all they did was change from calling it an "is". Now they have a flow to their lineup like the Audi's do. Base, Mnumbered, Full M.
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05-29-2014, 10:08 AM | #27 | |
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There is a mis-marketing which plagues an otherwise a very fine overall package of the M235i, it is not engineered to be a track weapon and people tend to forget that. The driver here praises the car yet some gets frustrated because it is 2 sec. slower than a 1M or a TT RS! If all we need is bragging rights than those will need to wait a M2 to fix the order in the universe.
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Around 10K miles, trying to keep it for fun times mostly and I have a short commute between work and home. Still got a few long journeys and road trips, some with family (wife, 2 kids) too. It is up to everything.
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It looks elegant in person especially with a right color (I loved the Melbourne Red) but less aggressive stance than the 1M. Money would be well spent if an owner would spend as much as possible for the rear though, anything cf from M Performance catalog! Looks are personal choice like you said. Bang for buck I think it doesn't have competition.
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This car has NO LSD. The claims BMW marketing made were with LSD. It also looked like the car had run-flats (ugh). What a waste of a review.
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...can't really tell for sure but run-flats have harder edges which look more squared off to me. I probably should have said nothing after looking at it again. No way to really tell for sure from the video. But still, why test a car and compare it to others when it doesn't have all the performance options anyone who would track this car would add. It's not like the LSD is aftermarket, it is an option you order just like ordering non-runflat tires. That's why when others compared it to the 1M the M235 was equipped with LSD. Understanding the LSD's for the true M and non-M cars are different. It is still more of an apples to apples comparison at that point.
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I also test drove an Elise SC and rode around the track in an Exige. I have a love/hate thing with that marque. Anyway, here's the same driver testing the 1M. Look at his face at 1:20 and compare it to how apathetic he is after getting out of the M235. [u2b]http://youtu.be/S7NhgCpMoGI[/u2b] |
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It seems to me that a lot of people are just upset at the lap time, but keep in mind that this is one result with one car. Deon noted several times that he was holding a lower gear. Maybe that wasn't the best strategy? Maybe he wasn't over driving the chassis, which may have resulted in a better time. I still don't think any of those things are negative. This was a good representation of the M235i being driven the way it was engineered to drive. Sure, it might be possible to squeeze a little more out of the car, but that might also mean driving the tires off of it; which no one is going to do. He praised the car for its strengths, which are a sporty (not track-ready) chassis and a great engine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being 2 seconds off a car like the 1M when you look at the total package.
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The TT RS is a beast though, it has more power and weighs less than the 235.
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