[m2ss]

Originally Posted by timchump

My Last post in this thread.

Bless you...

[Damage Inc]

I decided against the OG since it was white. Decided against the comp as I like the character of the OG more, and can get a no maintenance OG for $44k. The S55 has crank hub, 60k needs brakes, etc don't have the patience to deal with that stuff.

OG listed today with 6k miles for 44k but its fully stock. I had a Dinan on my previous OG that is a MUST have for me, stock was too tame so then I'm upper 40's with a Dinan, tune, and upgraded steering wheel (I hate the mod bug) so I'll need to wait for a bit more. Maybe they'll take 41k cash we shall see

I'm in the minority, where I want a black or gray OG manual. Making it VERY hard to be patient. It seems like 99% of OG's for sale are white or LBB DCT's.

I'm trying to talk myself into the DCT as they are plentiful but the manual really makes the M2 exciting to drive daily. Patience... patience...

[ThreeStripes]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc

I'm in the minority, where I want a black or gray OG manual. Making it VERY hard to be patient. It seems like 99% of OG's for sale are white or LBB DCT's.

I do love my black slick top manual OG. 409wtq @ 2750RPM makes for a fun daily. Stay the course.

[Damage Inc]

I ended up buying a 17 OG black with 12k miles. It has every option, $70k sticker. Paid $41,500. I decided against any comp due to the S55 sound and I don't really need the power.

Next decision is to keep the MPE or swap for Dinan. MPE sounds good, but the drone really bugged me. Dinan provides more sound in cabin with zero drone.

We shall see...

[DanG]

Congratulations. Check all the MPE mounting points. Maybe I am lucky but my MPE has zero drone. But I had drone until I installed the ASD bypass harness. (It was a fake drone by ASD).

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc

I ended up buying a 17 OG black with 12k miles. It has every option, $70k sticker. Paid $41,500. I decided against any comp due to the S55 sound and I don't really need the power.

Next decision is to keep the MPE or swap for Dinan. MPE sounds good, but the drone really bugged me. Dinan provides more sound in cabin with zero drone.

We shall see...

I believe you have chosen wisely

[philth]

Originally Posted by DanG

Congratulations. Check all the MPE mounting points. Maybe I am lucky but my MPE has zero drone. But I had drone until I installed the ASD bypass harness. (It was a fake drone by ASD).

Yup. Get rid of the ASD before trying anything else and go from there. Made a huge difference for me. Love my MPE.

[CanadianM2]

Congrats I was in the same boat but ended up with an manual OG as well.

I’m glad I chose this car, driving experience with the torque and the sound is amazing 🤩

[qnet]

I concur with getting rid of the active sound. I coded mine out with Bimmercode, and love my MPE. I also think you can't go wrong with Dinan, I like the look better; with the larger tips.

[Neusser]

Would have to be the Competition for me. S58 is the best M engine for me at present (sound aside), and the Comp updates really made the the car what it should have been from the start.

I nearly bought one, but it was too small for family duties.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Would have to be the Competition for me. S58 is the best M engine for me at present (sound aside), and the Comp updates really made the the car what it should have been from the start.

I nearly bought one, but it was too small for family duties.

LOL. Comp has an S55 engine not an S58. S58 is the best current M2 engine but only found in the G series.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by DanG

LOL. Comp has an S55 engine not an S58. S58 is the best current M2 engine but only found in the G series.

Yes, typo. Thx.

The lack of a "real" M engine was an issue for me with the OG M2, though I do think it looked a bit better cosmetically.

[Damage Inc]

Originally Posted by DanG

Congratulations. Check all the MPE mounting points. Maybe I am lucky but my MPE has zero drone. But I had drone until I installed the ASD bypass harness. (It was a fake drone by ASD).

What do you mean by MPE mounting points? What can I look for?

I have serious drone at 3k, but love the exhaust otherwise.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Yes, typo. Thx.

The lack of a "real" M engine was an issue for me with the OG M2, though I do think it looked a bit better cosmetically.

Even though it lacks an S in its engine code the N55 in the M2 is built by ///M, and has all the internals straight from the S55 lol

[DanG]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Even though it lacks an S in its engine code the N55 in the M2 is built by ///M, and has all the internals straight from the S55 lol

The ignorance goes on. The most love 1M also doesn’t have an S engine but has always sold for over MSRP.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by DanG

The ignorance goes on. The most love 1M also doesn’t have an S engine but has always sold for over MSRP.

I had never heard that the engine in the OG model is identical to the S55. Is it truly 100% the same?

I don't have anything against a "non-M" engine. But given the suite of improvements on the Competition, it just makes sense to take it. Particularly here in Germany where the price difference is often not that great. OGs are massively overpriced here, but then again so are all BMWs with a decent engine.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Neusser

I had never heard that the engine in the OG model is identical to the S55. Is it truly 100% the same?

I don't have anything against a "non-M" engine. But given the suite of improvements on the Competition, it just makes sense to take it. Particularly here in Germany where the price difference is often not that great. OGs are massively overpriced here, but then again so are all BMWs with a decent engine.

The N55 in the OG is not identical to the S55. It does have some elements from the S55 though and is not identical to the 2 series N55.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by DanG

The N55 in the OG is not identical to the S55. It does have some elements from the S55 though and is not identical to the 2 series N55.

Yes, that is what I thought. Was confused by the post from MTown.

Thx.

[Philly_sweden]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Yes, that is what I thought. Was confused by the post from MTown.

Thx.

Arguably the easiest way to identify a BMW M Series is to look at the VIN number. This is the quickest and most efficient way, as all you have to do is look at the first three letters. All BMW M models have VIN numbers that begin with WBS. All other BMW vehicles have VIN numbers that begin with WBA. If you want to double check the number, be sure to check it on the BMW VIN database.

N55 in the OG = WBS = M Engine. M’kay?

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by Philly_sweden

Arguably the easiest way to identify a BMW M Series is to look at the VIN number. This is the quickest and most efficient way, as all you have to do is look at the first three letters. All BMW M models have VIN numbers that begin with WBS. All other BMW vehicles have VIN numbers that begin with WBA. If you want to double check the number, be sure to check it on the BMW VIN database.

N55 in the OG = WBS = M Engine. M’kay?

I asked if the N55 in the OG had "all the internals" of the S55, as this was claimed above, and I had never heard this before. This would, ofc, make it an S55 if it were true.

As for it being a real M engine, the purists will complain more than me about the non-S designation, but for similar money, I would take the S55.

[bmwstephen]

e36 m3 owner chiming in as this debate is reminiscent of the US/Euro motors.

despite the designation, the m2 n55 has more components from the s55 than not; making it a bespoke engine in itself. Keep in mind that competition/CS only went to an s55 because the n55 would no longer be world-wide emission compliant.

As to why it didn't have an "S" designation to begin with doesn't matter considering the e36 US m3 motors had an "S" designation but was just a bored an stroked m50/m52 motor big deal.

[DanG]

I don’t like the hate from the M2C crowd for the OG M2 because it doesn’t have an S engine. Let’s live together happily. Both variants of the M2 are great cars.