[high_impact]

Anyone else considering the same move? 07 335i to 15 m235i

[Lucky13]

I went from a 2007 335 E93 to a 2014 M235 so that's pretty close.

[jbburgess]

I'm pretty close to that. I'm going from a 2008 E90 328i to a 2015 M235i. I think it's a fine idea.

[dan84]

Not entirely the same situation as I don't own an E92, but I was considering a used E92 335i, before I saw an M235i. Now it's an M235i all the way.

Also, this is the picture sub-forum, post a picture!

[tcinoc]

I went from a 2011 E92 to my 2015 m235. Loving it...

[mike@x-ph.com]

I would do it if i did not need the extra e92 space.

[ewohar]

Originally Posted by high_impact

Anyone else considering the same move? 07 335i to 15 m235i

Did the same move. 2007 335is coupe to 2015 m235. 335 is Dinan modified. ECU, suspension, exhaust, wheels. Lived with the m235 for a week + in Italy mostly and was quite happy with it. Got back into my 335 at airport and was having some doubts. BTW 335 puts out about 406 bhp and 427 lb ft of torque so it is a bit of an unfair comparison.

I will get the m235 in a few weeks and plan on keeping the 335 for a while at least. To me the 335 was an ideal platform car and the 435 just didn't appeal to me it looks like a large Ford Probe.

[five3three]

Originally Posted by high_impact

Anyone else considering the same move? 07 335i to 15 m235i

I went from 08 335i to the M235i

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by high_impact

Anyone else considering the same move? 07 335i to 15 m235i

A logical step from 335 would be a M2, M3 or M4. Unless you have a compelling need to change and absolutely do not want a M3/M4, I would suggest you hold out for the M2. Do not get suck into the M235 or M240 momentum...the next thing is probably much better.

[e92proper]

Originally Posted by ewohar

Did the same move. 2007 335is coupe to 2015 m235. 335 is Dinan modified. ECU, suspension, exhaust, wheels. Lived with the m235 for a week + in Italy mostly and was quite happy with it. Got back into my 335 at airport and was having some doubts. BTW 335 puts out about 406 bhp and 427 lb ft of torque so it is a bit of an unfair comparison.

I will get the m235 in a few weeks and plan on keeping the 335 for a while at least. To me the 335 was an ideal platform car and the 435 just didn't appeal to me it looks like a large Ford Probe.

There was no 335is coupe in 07?? Was this not on the U.S.?

[hyperzulu]

I am coming from a 2012 335is and the M235i is a better car for me in almost every way. If you do not need to get a bigger car, try it out.

[rti35]

Originally Posted by jaffa12

A logical step from 335 would be a M2, M3 or M4. Unless you have a compelling need to change and absolutely do not want a M3/M4, I would suggest you hold out for the M2. Do not get suck into the M235 or M240 momentum...the next thing is probably much better.

Huh?

The M2 doesn't look very promising over the M235, IMO. It's rated at 375HP IIRC. That and a few other goodies really don't put it too far above the M235i.

If it winds up being over 400HP then it starts to distance itself from the M235 but until then I couldn't justify spending the extra $$ for the M2. It's just not THAT much better than the M235. Plus the M235 has available AWD, if you're into that. I'd be willing to bet that from a dig the M235xdrive will be just as fast as the M2 until about ~60MPH.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by rti35

Huh?

The M2 doesn't look very promising over the M235, IMO. It's rated at 375HP IIRC. That and a few other goodies really don't put it too far above the M235i.

If it winds up being over 400HP then it starts to distance itself from the M235 but until then I couldn't justify spending the extra $$ for the M2. It's just not THAT much better than the M235. Plus the M235 has available AWD, if you're into that. I'd be willing to bet that from a dig the M235xdrive will be just as fast as the M2 until about ~60MPH.

Let's not pull away from the topic so quickly over one person's odd opinion and attempts to derail the thread.

The M235i in my opinion only gives away to the e92 in a few areas: Looks, size and powertrain upgrades. I think my 335is looks slightly better, it is a little bigger inside and the N54 engine could be driven harder than the N55. But everything else I give to the 2. Even without hydraulic steering, the 2 series has a much more precise steering feel.

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by rti35

Huh?

The M2 doesn't look very promising over the M235, IMO. It's rated at 375HP IIRC. That and a few other goodies really don't put it too far above the M235i.

If it winds up being over 400HP then it starts to distance itself from the M235 but until then I couldn't justify spending the extra $$ for the M2. It's just not THAT much better than the M235. Plus the M235 has available AWD, if you're into that. I'd be willing to bet that from a dig the M235xdrive will be just as fast as the M2 until about ~60MPH.

Pls read my post again. I suggested unless he has a compelling reason to change to another 335 or 235, consider M2 M3 and M4 i.e. move from a 335 to a M. Wait for the M2 to have all ducks lined up. If he's financially sensible (unlike most of us) then my post is irrelevant. I have a 235 too and certainly don't feel the need to nitpick and push/defend the 2 each and every fkg time!!

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by jaffa12

Pls read my post again. I suggested unless he has a compelling reason to change to another 335 or 235, consider M2 M3 and M4 i.e. move from a 335 to a M. Wait for the M2 to have all ducks lined up. If he's financially sensible (unlike most of us) then my post is irrelevant. I have a 235 too and certainly don't feel the need to nitpick and push/defend the 2 each and every fkg time!!

What makes you think everyone wants to spend more for an M car? It's really an absurd assumption. A logical progression could just as well be a 335i to a 435i... Every model year the cars get bigger and more powerful, so going to an M model is not always necessary just to get a faster, more powerful car than the one you're leaving.

[david.orr]

You're right too, my old man moves within accord range as each model evolves and he's happy as a kid even though some changes are minimal and cosmetic. Workmate is also extremely pleased with his move from 135 to 235. I do foolishly perhaps assume we all can't wait to jump into an M car as long as we're not financially sensible or constrained

[e92proper]

Everybody is wrong here.....anybody that mods a regular BMW "series" car wants an M and doesn't have an M because they either found a sick deal on a non M, they couldn't afford the M or they couldn't find one with the trim they wanted. Makes way more sense to wait for an m2 instead of mod the hell out of a m235.... Better base to start with, completely logical. The body, suspension, interior, everything will be different so "not much difference" argument is null. M is exclusive Msport is not

Any BMW guy saying M is not the goal is lying to themselves. Justify your purchase as you may but that's the truth. Sorry guys

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by e92proper

Everybody is wrong here.....anybody that mods a regular BMW "series" car wants an M and doesn't have an M because they either found a sick deal on a non M, they couldn't afford the M or they couldn't find one with the trim they wanted. Makes way more sense to wait for an m2 instead of mod the hell out of a m235.... Better base to start with, completely logical. The body, suspension, interior, everything will be different so "not much difference" argument is null. M is exclusive Msport is not

Any BMW guy saying M is not the goal is lying to themselves. Justify your purchase as you may but that's the truth. Sorry guys

M is exclusive?

Come to Los Angeles... you will see more M3/4s than M235s. And I mean F series M3s... far from exclusive.

I can afford an M4. Don't want a car that big. The e92 was already too big. The M2 is not out and I need a car. No lying to myself. I got the car I wanted.

[e92proper]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

M is exclusive?

Come to Los Angeles... you will see more M3/4s than M235s. And I mean F series M3s... far from exclusive.

I can afford an M4. Don't want a car that big. The e92 was already too big. The M2 is not out and I need a car. No lying to myself. I got the car I wanted.

Real life is not LA. And yes I said M is exclusive compared to an Msport outfitted car. Hey I needed a car fast as hell too, found an amazing end of year cpo deal on my lci e92 msport (alpine white over red 6mt) loaded.....Arkym cf aero bits and a ton of BMW perf mods. But you bet your ass I still want an e92m (which is what I was shopping for originally). M3/M4 are big and terrible, so I hear you on that one. But like I said.....any guy that's into BMWs lusts for anything M.

[hyperzulu]

My friend is older and owns an e46 m3. He prefers my 335is. The suspension is better for him since he isn't in pain over every bump and it's faster on the street (he doesn't track the car). He also prefers the looks. He's very into BMWs but the m3 is too much car and it's not even his daily driver. He may be in the minority, but the reality is sometimes the softer car is the better fit.

[e92proper]

Makes sense^ there are exceptions right? And I think the e46M quenched his M lust too!! Lol.

[vladberca]

For DD an M Performance model (M235i) in this case, might be the better alternative.
If you plan several track days per year, it's better to start with an M car. M2 might be the best solution.