[moldcad]

There is so much contradictory information and/or pure speculation on the new N55 "B" engines, which car gets which engine and when, that in spite of this new thread being redundant I will ask again:

- is there a consensus what happens to the M235i engine and when?
- what will the power gain be (if any) in that coming engine?

Having my M235i on order, I'd hate it if - after what is going to be a rather long wait - I get it only to learn that the next batch will be much stronger... But then again: how much more powerful it can possibly be, if the incoming M2 is "only" some 370 hp? I guess 340 hp for the M235i is the most we can expect - especially that I know from direct sources in Munich that the LCI 340i is only going to have exactly what M235i delivers now - i.e. 326 hp (and NOT as some speculate based on Autobild article - 360...).

Is there a solid info on that?

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

I'll let someone more informed chime in with the "B" engine information...My experience is there is always something newer and shinier around the corner. Thats why mods were invented

If the timing isn't too close, enjoy the anticipation of your new car order!

[Steven1077]

Originally Posted by moldcad

There is so much contradictory information and/or pure speculation on the new N55 "B" engines, which car gets which engine and when, that in spite of this new thread being redundant I will ask again:

- is there a consensus what happens to the M235i engine and when?
- what will the power gain be (if any) in that coming engine?

Having my M235i on order, I'd hate it if - after what is going to be a rather long wait - I get it only to learn that the next batch will be much stronger... But then again: how much more powerful it can possibly be, if the incoming M2 is "only" some 370 hp? I guess 340 hp for the M235i is the most we can expect - especially that I know from direct sources in Munich that the LCI 340i is only going to have exactly what M235i delivers now - i.e. 326 hp (and NOT as some speculate based on Autobild article - 360...).

Is there a solid info on that?

Why would they call it a 340i if it has the same power as an M135i/235i?

[moldcad]

Originally Posted by Midwest M235i

If the timing isn't too close, enjoy the anticipation of your new car order!

Exactly - my anxiety is about the timing. If I waited as most here seem to have waited, and the new more powerful M235i arrived a year later - let it be; but I seem to be one of those with 3-4 months long waiting, so when I finally get it in late March/early April, and say starting July the new model becomes available, I'll be very frustrated.

Knowing something absolutely positive about the timeframe and technical data of the new model might make me ask for postponing the BM of my car by just another 3-4 months, and I might be much happier....

[Delnari]

Don't sweat it. The 2 Series won't be seeing any major changes to probably 2017 model. If more cheap power is what you are missing then just add a piggyback to the car for under $800 and get 10-30% more power. I have tried 3 different brands (one was too expensive) and they add more power and torque to the stock engine.

[Killramos]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

Why would they call it a 340i if it has the same power as an M135i/235i?

Because Mercedes is now branding their 3 litre turbo car as a "40" and there are enough idiots out there who care enough that it could affect sales. Also it wont be the same power as that would be very unlikely for a new engine. Just very similar power.

Mercedes already has a "45" 3 litre turbo coming out now so BMW is already behind.

I say go back to basing it on displacement/cylindersdividedby2 and use the numbers 3 5 and 8 to denote performance differences between engines of the same displacement. And stop trying to chase the other manufacturers.

Meaning for the N55 you could have a _33 (X3 type) _35( 335i Mppk type) or _38 (MPerf M235i type maybe)

Also means no _50's unless they put a V10 in!

[scottomfg]

Well, according to this, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153 we're at least a year and five months away from a m240i. So, no worries, and enjoy your M235i when it arrives.

[chaswyck1]

I'm not sure I understand what this concern is all about. If you're happy with your car and it has all the power you could ever use (in fact, more than you will ever use), what difference does it make if BMW introduces a car with even more HP? That doesn't take away from what you have.

[Lucky13]

The latest info I read either today or yesterday says the 340 starts shipping this summer with 320 hp and 320 torque. The numbers on BMW's never mean anything so 340 is meaningless just like the 328 going to 330 is meaningless. The question is will they slightly upgrade the power in the M235 when it changes to M240. My guess is they will upgrade it slightly maybe to 330 or 340 or why call it an M sport. The initial idea was to launch several models like the M235 and X4 with upgraded specs but not true M cars. I think they may go to 340, I can't remember but what was the hp difference between the 135is and 1M?

[moldcad]

Originally Posted by chaswyck@yahoo.com

I'm not sure I understand what this concern is all about. If you're happy with your car and it has all the power you could ever use (in fact, more than you will ever use), what difference does it make if BMW introduces a car with even more HP? That doesn't take away from what you have.

Yeah, looks like you don't understand This is my OP's main points again for you:
- I don't have my M235i yet, and the wait will be 3-4 months
- if the MY2016 starting in July 2015 already does have the more powerful engine, it means right after I get mine the new specs are available
- if so, I'd much prefer waiting 1-2 more months and get the MY2016 model

It's that simple

[pikcachu]

only 340 will get the new engine for now not even 440, i wouldn't hold your breath for at least 2 years maybe for the LCI

also if you want more power just wait till next March and get an M2

[ORIGIN M.]

Its a really good question. One I'd like to know too if I was about to order my new car.

11-12 months on the outside seems like a realistic time frame.

[TurboKoo]

Well, at least European market gets maybe an update to 228i

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by chaswyck@yahoo.com

I'm not sure I understand what this concern is all about. If you're happy with your car and it has all the power you could ever use (in fact, more than you will ever use), what difference does it make if BMW introduces a car with even more HP? That doesn't take away from what you have.

I understand your point exactly that there should be no car envy if you're happy with your car. And you make a great point that whatever comes out in the future does not make yours any slower.

But, I have had a lot of high horsepower cars, and haven't found one yet that had too much power. The only time I have ever heard someone say their car has too much power was when Jay Leno was talking about his 1000 hp Olds Toronado - he said that was too much.

Anyone who tracks their car, even once, will realize that you can never have too much horsepower. The first long straightaway at WOT will confirm it. Even if you have a C7.

[moldcad]

Originally Posted by wjones14

I understand your point exactly that there should be no car envy if you're happy with your car.

Only the M235i I's so much like an (even) stronger engine for is not yet a car I could (or not) be happy with, as the production has not even been confirmed yet (even though I have it on order since Dec 08th )

[moldcad]

Originally Posted by TurboKoo

Well, at least European market gets maybe an update to 228i

Didn't quite get what you mean - could you elaborate (no that I'd be interested in anything less than M235i - hey, I sold my otherwise perfect F10 because of the lousy .28 N20 engine)...

[chaswyck1]

Originally Posted by moldcad

Yeah, looks like you don't understand This is my OP's main points again for you:
- I don't have my M235i yet, and the wait will be 3-4 months
- if the MY2016 starting in July 2015 already does have the more powerful engine, it means right after I get mine the new specs are available
- if so, I'd much prefer waiting 1-2 more months and get the MY2016 model

It's that simple

I can see where if waiting another month or two will get you the updated version you'd want to do that. I would probably want to also. My comment was really directed at people on this and other threads who are freaking out that the car they already have will somehow be outdated when the new model comes out.

[chaswyck1]

Originally Posted by wjones14

I understand your point exactly that there should be no car envy if you're happy with your car. And you make a great point that whatever comes out in the future does not make yours any slower.

But, I have had a lot of high horsepower cars, and haven't found one yet that had too much power. The only time I have ever heard someone say their car has too much power was when Jay Leno was talking about his 1000 hp Olds Toronado - he said that was too much.

Anyone who tracks their car, even once, will realize that you can never have too much horsepower. The first long straightaway at WOT will confirm it. Even if you have a C7.

What if you never track the car and rarely if ever go over say 85 mph, which describes probably 95% of all drivers? It's not a matter of "too much power", it's a matter of power that the vast majority of people will never use.

[moonsault270]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

only 340 will get the new engine for now not even 440, i wouldn't hold your breath for at least 2 years maybe for the LCI

also if you want more power just wait till next March and get an M2

What do you mean about the 440? Its getting the B58