[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

I agree, black kidneys, and mineral gray. That would be awesome.

I thought we were both ordering LBB?!?!?!

[WWM3]

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Originally Posted by djafactor

No problem everyone.

Let me know if you want to see any other colors

Yellow:

Thanks! How about alpine white and long beach blue?

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by Strongbark

According to this article and chariman of the board at BMW M GmbH, Friedrich Nitschke, the M2 will be powered by an all new engine codenamed S57 B30 and will produce 400hp. According to him, that's the "magic number". This contradicts what we've been hearing all along doesn't it? Which engine will it be?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11410238...-engine-for-m2

If this car weighs 3400 pounds and comes with 400 hp, it will be as fast or faster than the new M3/4. In that case, i dont see why would anyone pay about $20k more for m3/4.
That render looks fantastic btw.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by W///

I thought we were both ordering LBB?!?!?!

Bahaha just trying to feel out all the options, my man. We can both agree that we can't go wrong

LBB is still in top 3. The order of the Top 3 is not known. But they include...

LBB
Mineral Gray
AY

Also... what are your thoughts on this render? Seems to me like it will prove to be pretty dead on.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

black or dark grey. With and without black wheels.
Black kidneys, definitely.

This is exactly what I wanted to ask for, but I didn't want to request too much of the guy, haha.

[Colinv6]

SilverstoneII pleeeaaaasseee

[bimmerbuff]

Looks awesome without the wing and vents. Nice work, djafactor.

[bladeomatic]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

I think BMW will probably want to keep the M3/M4 at the top of the BMW performance hill. (And I know beyond any shadow of a doubt that past, current, and future M3/M4 owners will want the M3/M4 to stay on top of the BMW performance hill.)

Which means that the M2 should be slower than the M3/M4. Easy to do. Keep the weight at or near that of the M3/M4 and keep the power between M235i and M3/M4 levels. That way M2 buyers can have the fastest 2 series ever made, for a lower price than the M3/M4. And it wouldn't threaten the M3/M4 in terms of performance, prestige, sales cannibalization, or any of that.

Just my $0.02.

This could be, but I'm not so sure.

I don't see BMW as intending the M3/4 to be the best offering they have. I think the public does that.

The M3/4 is the standard bearer for the brand, partly because it's so excellent and partly because it's the sinister version of the most popular core model they sell (3 series). The 3 is what the Accord is to Honda and the Camry is to Toyota. Wildly-popular & mid-sized.

Fundamentally, you can get some good benefits out of other models (M5, X5M, M6, Z4, etc.). but the M3 is sized right where most folks want. Not too big, not too small. Even if the M2 is faster or handles better than the M3/4, it's not going to be the size that most folks want. Witness the popularity of the 1/2 series vs. the 3/4 series.

That said, I seriously doubt that BMW will intentionally retard the performance of the M2 simply so it doesn't compete with the M3/4. Why? Because the 1 series M had virtually identical 0-60, 1/4 mile and skidpad specs as it's big brother M3 of the day. They certainly didn't hamper the last M pocket rocket.

There may be some obstacles in the smaller car that prevent BMW from providing a powerplant that closely competes with the M3/4. But the M2 will have the natural advantage of size/weight over the bigger cars. I fully expect an M2 will have no problem keeping up with an M3/4...and in certain situations (tight track, etc.) even possibly trouncing them.

[golf_234]

Originally Posted by WWM3

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Thanks! How about alpine white and long beach blue?

Yes please Alpine

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by bladeomatic

This could be, but I'm not so sure.

I don't see BMW as intending the M3/4 to be the best offering they have. I think the public does that.

The M3/4 is the standard bearer for the brand, partly because it's so excellent and partly because it's the sinister version of the most popular core model they sell (3 series). The 3 is what the Accord is to Honda and the Camry is to Toyota. Wildly-popular & mid-sized.

Fundamentally, you can get some good benefits out of other models (M5, X5M, M6, Z4, etc.). but the M3 is sized right where most folks want. Not too big, not too small. Even if the M2 is faster or handles better than the M3/4, it's not going to be the size that most folks want. Witness the popularity of the 1/2 series vs. the 3/4 series.

That said, I seriously doubt that BMW will intentionally retard the performance of the M2 simply so it doesn't compete with the M3/4. Why? Because the 1 series M had virtually identical 0-60, 1/4 mile and skidpad specs as it's big brother M3 of the day. They certainly didn't hamper the last M pocket rocket.

There may be some obstacles in the smaller car that prevent BMW from providing a powerplant that closely competes with the M3/4. But the M2 will have the natural advantage of size/weight over the bigger cars. I fully expect an M2 will have no problem keeping up with an M3/4...and in certain situations (tight track, etc.) even possibly trouncing them.

That's a great point.

[jrlee53]

Originally Posted by djafactor

Here you go....

Super quick Photoshop with no spoiler, no vents, Estoril Blue:

Nice.. thats the one right there

[golf_234]

Ahh this car is going to be mind blowing. We had all better save up the money for a second daily driver, because this will be one to keep mint. It's definitely love.

[djafactor]

Alpine is a bit difficult since i don't have the original file but some more combos:

Grey w/blk grills

Attachment 1108758

Grey w/blk grills & wheels

Attachment 1108759

Darth vader look:

Attachment 1108760

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by djafactor

Here you go....

Super quick Photoshop with no spoiler, no vents, Estoril Blue:

Attachment 1108736

Wow, that's beautiful. Can you do frozen silver?

And finally! A set of headlights on a new BMW that doesn't make me want to vomit.

If this thing is in the 3200-3300lb range and has an equally impressive chassis as the M3/4, I'll be all over it.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Bahaha just trying to feel out all the options, my man. We can both agree that we can't go wrong

LBB is still in top 3. The order of the Top 3 is not known. But they include...

LBB
Mineral Gray
AY

Also... what are your thoughts on this render? Seems to me like it will prove to be pretty dead on.

Haha I'm just playing. My E92 (which is staying) is already gunmetal, so it wouldn't make sense for me to get essentially the same color on the M2. One is going to be elegant yet menacing, and the other one is just going to be a vibrant color. Can't go wrong with MG, especially with a red interior.

I'm still leaning towards LBB personally. I absolutely love AY too, but that blue just suits the car so well. I think the rendering is spot on (especially the one without the hood slits and wing). Like I said, the only critique I have is that the rear flares should be much more aggressive than that. We've seen the spy shots and that thing has F80-esque flares.

So really, the car should look even better than the already good looking photoshop.

[OverDriven]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

If this car weighs 3400 pounds and comes with 400 hp, it will be as fast or faster than the new M3/4. In that case, i dont see why would anyone pay about $20k more for m3/4.
That render looks fantastic btw.

It's funny how people on this forum seem to think that there are only 2 numbers that matter in a car - weight and power. It doesn't matter if the M2 is as fast as the M4. There will be many other differences between the cars that put them in their particular price bracket.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by W///

Haha I'm just playing. My E92 (which is staying) is already gunmetal, so it wouldn't make sense for me to get essentially the same color on the M2. One is going to be elegant yet menacing, and the other one is just going to be a vibrant color. Can't go wrong with MG, especially with a red interior.

I'm still leaning towards LBB personally. I absolutely love AY too, but that blue just suits the car so well. I think the rendering is spot on (especially the one without the hood slits and wing). Like I said, the only critique I have is that the rear flares should be much more aggressive than that. We've seen the spy shots and that thing has F80-esque flares.

So really, the car should look even better than the already good looking photoshop.

I agree with everything you said 100%, and I too would go for LBB if I were you. Did you catch the new gray renders that were just posted? This render looks incredible - major thanks to the user who made these.

If only Bimmerpost released a rear render as well....

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by djafactor

Alpine is a bit difficult since i don't have the original file but some more combos:

Grey w/blk grills

Thank you so much for doing this.

[W///]

Originally Posted by bladeomatic

This could be, but I'm not so sure.

I don't see BMW as intending the M3/4 to be the best offering they have. I think the public does that.

The M3/4 is the standard bearer for the brand, partly because it's so excellent and partly because it's the sinister version of the most popular core model they sell (3 series). The 3 is what the Accord is to Honda and the Camry is to Toyota. Wildly-popular & mid-sized.

Fundamentally, you can get some good benefits out of other models (M5, X5M, M6, Z4, etc.). but the M3 is sized right where most folks want. Not too big, not too small. Even if the M2 is faster or handles better than the M3/4, it's not going to be the size that most folks want. Witness the popularity of the 1/2 series vs. the 3/4 series.

That said, I seriously doubt that BMW will intentionally retard the performance of the M2 simply so it doesn't compete with the M3/4. Why? Because the 1 series M had virtually identical 0-60, 1/4 mile and skidpad specs as it's big brother M3 of the day. They certainly didn't hamper the last M pocket rocket.

There may be some obstacles in the smaller car that prevent BMW from providing a powerplant that closely competes with the M3/4. But the M2 will have the natural advantage of size/weight over the bigger cars. I fully expect an M2 will have no problem keeping up with an M3/4...and in certain situations (tight track, etc.) even possibly trouncing them.

I'm not sold. The 1M vs the E9x was more apples to oranges than anything. In one corner you have a high strung V8 in a decently heavy car against a much lighter car with much more torque. I mean if you are looking at purely 0-60 numbers and things like that, the E9x can easily get outrun my a modified 335i, it doesn't take much.

But I think this M2 vs M3/4 is a completely new ball game. We are talking turbo 6 vs turbo 6 here. Will it come close in real world conditions? Possibly. But I will bet you anything in the press or brochures will say that the M2 will be slower to 60 mph and slower on the Ring than an M3/4.

Having said that, I couldn't care less. I wouldn't purchase a car for the numbers alone. Like the 1M, I hope it has a hell of a personality.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

I agree with everything you said 100%, and I too would go for LBB if I were you. Did you catch the new gray renders that were just posted? This render looks incredible - major thanks to the user who made these.

If only Bimmerpost released a rear render as well....

I like how we were begging for new content just a week ago, and were running out of things to discuss haha.

You can't go wrong with MG, it looks absolutely killer on an F80. Especially with blacked out grilles. But that blue PS is talking to me.

Besides, if I really want to stretch my imagination, that leaves room in my garage for a Speed Yellow 997 GT3 (one of my dream cars)

Blue it is then

[Cavpilot2k]

Oh dear sweet Jesus, thank you for the last three renders.
As soon as I finish masturbating to these pics I will respond...









Okay. Finished.
I will be hard pressed to choose between the MG and full-on Darth Vader (ironically, based on the front end shapes, that's what I was thinking this would look like in black on my morning commute this morning when I was fantasizing about this sexy beast.

FWIW, I think, even if 0-60 an Nurbergring numbers are 100% identical, there is still plenty of room to differentiate between the M2 and M4. One is larger: larger and smaller both appeal to plenty of people for a variety of reasons. If it didn't, the M6 wouldn't sell. Who needs a coupe that big? Nobody. Who WANTS one? plenty of people. Then there is the matter of style and aesthetics. Aston Martin and Jaguar sit firmly in the same market segment, but plenty of people choose both. Finally, the M3/4 can be the "prestige" model with all the techie bells and whistles, while the M2 can be the stripped down beast for those who don't care about being a tech showcase - just a pure driving car.

Either way, this will be my DD. I once thought about having a DD and a weekend fun car. But I realized that I would never end up using my DD. What is the point? I want to enjoy my daily drive every day too!
DD M2 FTW!!

[Cavpilot2k]

Also, does anybody have any idea when the mass ED event would be? My GF is Bavarian, so she would never balk at a chance to visit her family even though we are vacationing there for 3 weeks in spring 2015.