aFe Scorcher Install Review

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-13-2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alz0rz

Mike.. I thought that the BMS Stage 1 (and JB4 Map 1) were both only 12.5psi (2.5 psi over stock).. is that correct?

Or is that the Stage 1 pushes 13.5 psi but the JB4 Map 1 does 12.5psi?

Stage1 runs 3psi over stock across the board. The JB4 map 1 runs anywhere from 0-7psi over stock depending on the conditions, engine speed, gear, etc.

Mike

JKBM235 · 11-17-2014, 10:08 AM

I have been using the Scorcher for 2 years and have had no problems (no codes, idle problems) . Going to the M235i next October 2015 it looks like I will have to get the B model and sell the A model .

doberzus · 11-17-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JBMSPORT

I have been using the Scorcher for 2 years and have had no problems (no codes, idle problems) . Going to the M235i next October 2015 it looks like I will have to get the B model and sell the A model .

I see your in CA, do you use 91 octane with the Scorcher?

JKBM235 · 11-17-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by doberzus

I see your in CA, do you use 91 octane with the Scorcher?

Yes, 91 works fine. Don't know about higher octane but better I would guess.

billmercier1126 · 11-18-2014, 12:16 PM

Thanks for the info Delnari. I am considering the AFE as well. I know there are 2 different connectors that are available. Where exactly is the connector located so I order the correct one?

Delnari · 11-19-2014, 11:51 AM

You only need to piggyback two sensors, the TMAP and Map sensors. The instructions are on aFe site, Scorcher Installation.

Béhème · 11-21-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

It's (AFE) based on the same analog technology as the BMS Stage1, only instead of being set to 3.5psi as the Stage1 is, they set it to 4.5psi. BMS prefers to have CAN bus access in place for the higher boost levels so keeps those for JB4 level performance.

Mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Stage1 runs 3psi over stock across the board. The JB4 map 1 runs anywhere from 0-7psi over stock depending on the conditions, engine speed, gear, etc.

Mike

Doses anyone know what the Dinan stage 1 runs at ?

rdgray · 11-24-2014, 04:10 PM

So is it correct that installing the aFe module would cause my P3 gauge to give false boost readings as it basically tricks the ecu? Are there any other complications that could arise with using the P3 and aFe module? I remember reading somewhere on here about the JB4 and P3 not getting along, I just wasn't sure if the same problems could occur with the aFe...

AlexGT · 11-25-2014, 01:00 PM

@Delnari , man I enjoyed so much your review, not only the technical specs but also the funny additional comments LOL. Thanks for sharing it, I haven't had the chance to read this until today. Cheers.

Sp1ke · 12-11-2014, 09:26 AM

Out of all of ur tunes it seems like u favor this one the most.
I'll def most likely consider this set up over all first. I'm in the
Alexandria area as well. I'll be looking out for u once I get my
M235i and bike lol. (Unless I can wait for the M2

)

Delnari · 12-11-2014, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp1ke

Out of all of ur tunes it seems like u favor this one the most.
I'll def most likely consider this set up over all first. I'm in the
Alexandria area as well. I'll be looking out for u once I get my
M235i and bike lol. (Unless I can wait for the M2

)

It has been certainly the "best bang for the buck" while not causing any issues that a higher boosted system might. Custom tunes and full JB4 will be largest increase. Keeping the motor and electronics safe while having more fun was my goal. Plus, I can resell it when my new car come 2016 shows up...

FSociety · 01-21-2015, 12:28 PM

+1 on aFe scorcher
+1 on Delnari

mmmmm235i · 01-24-2015, 03:32 PM

After reading your review Delnari, I too decided to pick up the scorcher. The JB while tried and true is just so ridiculous with all the extra wires. The setup is so clean and easy to swap out for maintenance no problem. I also have the AFE intake and the combination is outstanding. It transforms the car completely. I would reccommend this to anyone in the market for this sort of thing.

Delnari · 01-24-2015, 07:43 PM

I might be buying the Racechip Ultimate next month to see if it give a little more punch. Will be sure to post a review if I do.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-25-2015, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mmmmm235i

After reading your review Delnari, I too decided to pick up the scorcher. The JB while tried and true is just so ridiculous with all the extra wires. The setup is so clean and easy to swap out for maintenance no problem. I also have the AFE intake and the combination is outstanding. It transforms the car completely. I would reccommend this to anyone in the market for this sort of thing.

FYI a few months ago BMS switched the Stage1 to a simpler harness.

It also still has the USB port for data logging and custom tuning changes if you want to turn the boost up a bit, etc.

Béhème · 04-02-2015, 07:28 AM

Is the aFe Sensor 1 (77-46301) or Sensor 2 (77-46304) required for the M235i ?

There seems to be conflicting information on the websites!!!

1drumshark · 04-03-2015, 01:11 PM

Might be a dumb question, but I just wanted to run it by you guys before I bit the bullet.
I know that running a CAI without a tune can cause the engine to run lean, which can lead to issues with turbo engines like ours (M235i xdrive), but these simple tunes that just trick the ecu into seeing a lower boost than is actually there, will they actually solve that problem? I'm just worried about long term effects, as no one here has any failure lights yet.

I plan on getting the Momentum cai, with either the scorcher or racechip tune.

Delnari · 04-03-2015, 09:45 PM

I run the aFe Momentum intake with all the tunes I have installed for nearly one year now. No check engine lights or problems by having it. Currently running the RC Ultimate with "D" setting on 93 octane gas and all is good.

shane060 · 06-10-2015, 10:32 PM

Does anyone know if you can get proper readout data from the p3 vent gauge while using this scorcher tune??

mike@x-ph.com · 06-12-2015, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the review OP

Quote:

Originally Posted by doberzus

I see your in CA, do you use 91 octane with the Scorcher?

We have lots of happy Cali owners using the scorcher

alz0rz · 06-12-2015, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane060

Does anyone know if you can get proper readout data from the p3 vent gauge while using this scorcher tune??

You should be able to on all parameters except boost. All piggybacks that interface this way 'fake' boost readings as part of their operation and so what the computer is misled into seeing is what the OBDII port will give you.

You run the P3 boost function in analog (requires another wire from the p3 to a tap on engine bay sensor) mode that will give you true boost readings.

doberzus · 06-12-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We have lots of happy Cali owners using the scorcher

How about issues with altitude?! Do any of these piggybacks combined with 91+~4500ft(in my case) cause problems?! Which "stage 1" piggyback would you recommend for that situation?

I know the JB4 has autotuning, more features, etc. just don't want to deal with the install.

Thanks!

11-17-2014, 10:08 AM	#46
JKBM235 Enlisted Member 8 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Fresno, Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M235i [0.00]	I have been using the Scorcher for 2 years and have had no problems (no codes, idle problems) . Going to the M235i next October 2015 it looks like I will have to get the B model and sell the A model .
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11-18-2014, 12:16 PM	#49
billmercier1126 Enlisted Member 9 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i mineral grey 6 sp Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego CA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the info Delnari. I am considering the AFE as well. I know there are 2 different connectors that are available. Where exactly is the connector located so I order the correct one? __________________ 2014 M235i, mineral grey, black Dakota leather, Msport exhaust, Msport carbon fiber spoiler.
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11-19-2014, 11:51 AM	#50
Delnari Major 255 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2014 MG F22 Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (2)	You only need to piggyback two sensors, the TMAP and Map sensors. The instructions are on aFe site, Scorcher Installation.
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11-24-2014, 04:10 PM	#52
rdgray New Member 0 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (0)	So is it correct that installing the aFe module would cause my P3 gauge to give false boost readings as it basically tricks the ecu? Are there any other complications that could arise with using the P3 and aFe module? I remember reading somewhere on here about the JB4 and P3 not getting along, I just wasn't sure if the same problems could occur with the aFe...
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11-25-2014, 01:00 PM	#53
AlexGT Captain 419 Rep 809 Posts Drives: G05 X5 MSport Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Guatemala iTrader: (0)	@Delnari , man I enjoyed so much your review, not only the technical specs but also the funny additional comments LOL. Thanks for sharing it, I haven't had the chance to read this until today. Cheers.
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12-11-2014, 09:26 AM	#54
Sp1ke New Member 2 Rep 24 Posts Drives: e82 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: NoVa iTrader: (0)	Out of all of ur tunes it seems like u favor this one the most. I'll def most likely consider this set up over all first. I'm in the Alexandria area as well. I'll be looking out for u once I get my M235i and bike lol. (Unless I can wait for the M2 )
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01-21-2015, 12:28 PM	#56
FSociety IG @bmwF9xG80 3812 Rep 7,593 Posts Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL iTrader: (3) Garage List 2023 BMW G80 M3 [0.00] 2020 BMW X4MC [0.00] 16' BMW X4 M40i [10.00] 06 Cadillac STS [0.00]	+1 on aFe scorcher +1 on Delnari __________________ 60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP 60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce IG: @bmwF9XG80
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01-24-2015, 03:32 PM	#57
mmmmm235i Captain 104 Rep 835 Posts Drives: 440xi GC Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NY -> CO iTrader: (12)	After reading your review Delnari, I too decided to pick up the scorcher. The JB while tried and true is just so ridiculous with all the extra wires. The setup is so clean and easy to swap out for maintenance no problem. I also have the AFE intake and the combination is outstanding. It transforms the car completely. I would reccommend this to anyone in the market for this sort of thing. __________________ 2020 X3M Comp., Alpine White on Black/Beige RETIRED: 2018 440xi GC, Carbon Black on Black/Blue 2014 M235i Black on Black, DINAN Stage 2
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01-24-2015, 07:43 PM	#58
Delnari Major 255 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2014 MG F22 Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (2)	I might be buying the Racechip Ultimate next month to see if it give a little more punch. Will be sure to post a review if I do.
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04-02-2015, 07:28 AM	#60
Béhème Private First Class 41 Rep 197 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montréal iTrader: (0)	Is the aFe Sensor 1 (77-46301) or Sensor 2 (77-46304) required for the M235i ? There seems to be conflicting information on the websites!!!
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04-03-2015, 01:11 PM	#61
1drumshark Enlisted Member 16 Rep 41 Posts Drives: M235xi black Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Might be a dumb question, but I just wanted to run it by you guys before I bit the bullet. I know that running a CAI without a tune can cause the engine to run lean, which can lead to issues with turbo engines like ours (M235i xdrive), but these simple tunes that just trick the ecu into seeing a lower boost than is actually there, will they actually solve that problem? I'm just worried about long term effects, as no one here has any failure lights yet. I plan on getting the Momentum cai, with either the scorcher or racechip tune.
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04-03-2015, 09:45 PM	#62
Delnari Major 255 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2014 MG F22 Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (2)	I run the aFe Momentum intake with all the tunes I have installed for nearly one year now. No check engine lights or problems by having it. Currently running the RC Ultimate with "D" setting on 93 octane gas and all is good.
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06-10-2015, 10:32 PM	#63
shane060 Second Lieutenant 89 Rep 229 Posts Drives: 2015 M235 6spd 2011 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SA TX iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 M3 [0.00]	Does anyone know if you can get proper readout data from the p3 vent gauge while using this scorcher tune??
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