[BPMSport]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...MW-MINUTE.html

Reminds me of the one a few years ago with the 1M..

From the article linked:
“
Victim was awoken from his sleep by the sounds of his brand new car's engine
He ran to the window before dashing downstairs but his motor was already gone
Incident is one of four understood to have taken place in North London recently
This is the shocking moment two thieves steal a £50,000 BMW in under a minute by bypassing its security system with a special device.

The incident is one of four recent thefts in North London where criminals have used gadgets available on the dark web to quickly make off with high-end motors.

Thieves are able to unlock the keyless cars by transmitting an amplified signal that fools the security system into opening the doors.

The victim, a businessman and father who wished not to be named, had the car for little over a month before it was snatched.

He told MailOnline: 'I was in my bedroom sleeping at the time. We had just bought the brand new car at the beginning of September. “

Videos are on the page.


Sorry if repost..

[Haywood]

That's some scary shit. Glad my car is in the garage.

[MalibuBimmer]

Either that or the businessman who wished not to be named got tired of his car and stood next to it while the comfort access was allowing it to start. Just sayin'

[ORIGIN M.]

You are telling yourself stories.

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

Either that or the businessman who wished not to be named got tired of his car and stood next to it while the comfort access was allowing it to start. Just sayin'

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

You are telling yourself stories.

I don't believe everything I read.

[ORIGIN M.]

Alright I can appreciate that 100%.

I would have used my connected-drive app, and got my damn car back !

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

I don't believe everything I read.

[wjjkoevoets]

This is a common method of stealing cars equipped with comfort access.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by wjjkoevoets

This is a common method of stealing cars equipped with comfort access.

Correct -- and it happens in the U.S. quite often. Firsthand anecdote:

My 48-unit, controlled-access condo building has its parking garage on the ground floor. We're all pretty diligent about watching for those who don't belong ... but even so, within the past year, thieves have twice used an amplified transponder device to access cars with passive keyless entry (BMW's term: Comfort Access) by several specific manufacturers to steal those cars' contents. Sunglasses, cash, and 'loose' audio equipment were targeted specifically: easy stuff for a 'smash and grab' thief.

The cars that were spared are ones without passive keyless entry, including my 2 Series. Why? Because the code for cars with active keyless entry (i.e. a remote fob) can only be captured by these transponders when the fob is used (i.e., when a button is pressed), whereas the ones with passive keyless entry can be captured at any time if the fob is within range of the transponder -- amplified versions of which can be capable of capturing codes from 50-80 yards away. Basically, the thieves captured entry codes while the fobs were sitting in each owner's condo!

The solution? Keep your fobs in a metal-lined box that blocks the near-field signal. A microwave oven works, but a steel security box or safe works better. Or, you can do what I do: never order a car with passive keyless entry again. I did just that with my new Porsche.

[Maynard]

What ever happened to the 'BMW Remote tracked them and locked them in the car, alerted police'? I guess that won't activate until you alert them your ride is stolen, but surprising they don't mention that option in the story (or perhaps it is just for the 7-series?).

At least there is beginning to be a new way to rob cars that does not involve physically mugging the owner for their fob - that was a 'theft deterrent' that went WAY wrong (fobs and electronic keys were initially touted as the solution to a theft-prone mechanical key, ushering in the era of the carjacking). Probably helps that I also skipped the comfort access option; I bet that if they work at it, they can put in the same rolling encryption that they use for the button-push - that seems to be a decent deterrent.

[TodmordenLad]

If you've got comfort access, you need a Faraday bag/pouch to prevent a relay attack. Not much more than £10. Some Amazon reviewers have said that they stop working after a few days which is puzzling, given their composition. Mine still works after many months

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

If you've got comfort access, you need a Faraday bag/pouch to prevent a relay attack. Not much more than £10. Some Amazon reviewers have said that they stop working after a few days which is puzzling, given their composition. Mine still works after many months

This is noted in my post above. All that's needed is a box made of conductive metal that interferes with the NF signal to the point where it can't be amplified clearly.

I'd personally be wary of 'bags' simply because by nature, a bag has an opening and isn't solid conductive material all around. Remember: thieves are attempting to amplify an existing signal. Any opening can give them the window (pun partially intended) they need.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by Maynard

I bet that if they work at it, they can put in the same rolling encryption that they use for the button-push - that seems to be a decent deterrent.

Actually, that's a challenge simply because for it to work, both the transmitter (the fob) and the receiver (the car) have to roll codes simultaneously and continuously. To achieve that, both have to always be synced with each other, which is not possible when one is out of range of the other -- and to achieve such an always-on sync would likely open the car up to thievery even more easily (not to mention the RF risks to your gonads of an always-transmitting fob in your pocket).

[jpdchicago]

Glad the gts does not have comfort access after reading that. Still need to unlock your door by pressing on the key...
I can handle getting the key out of my pocket.
I have read a number of stories about keyless access being highly prone to hacking.

[jinda]

Originally Posted by wjjkoevoets

This is a common method of stealing cars equipped with comfort access.

Wouldn't the engine die if it continue driving without the key in the car?
My wife's lowly Mazda CX9 has a keyless start and happened to us twice that I had to drop her somewhere and drove off without the key because she got it in her bag.

Car warned me about it and it stopped me just a few blocks away getting enough time to pull over to the side and walk back to get the key.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by jinda

Wouldn't the engine die if it continue driving without the key in the car?
My wife's lowly Mazda CX9 has a keyless start and happened to us twice that I had to drop her somewhere and drove off without the key because she got it in her bag.

Car warned me about it and it stopped me just a few blocks away getting enough time to pull over to the side and walk back to get the key.

Most cars will continue to run once started even if the key is not inside the car. This prevents problems when the wireless reception is not that good or if the battery dies in the key.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by wjjkoevoets

This is a common method of stealing cars equipped with comfort access.

Yep. The German Polizei are telling residents who live near the border... to put both CA car keys in their fridge... that way when the thieves come the RF signal can't get thru the fridge.

Dackel

[jmg]

Imagine you are out to lunch and someone just drives away with your car. Maybe there exists a Faraday bag that fits in your pocket. Or just code out the CA?

[wdb]

Faraday bag -- do you mean the travel bag I use that has a light wire mesh liner? Costs oh, $20 and it holds my credit cards nicely as well.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by jmg

Imagine you are out to lunch and someone just drives away with your car. Maybe there exists a Faraday bag that fits in your pocket. Or just code out the CA?

Three words: steel filing cabinet.

Wouldn't a Faraday bag that fits in your pocket defeat the purpose of having passive keyless entry entirely?

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by wdb

Faraday bag -- do you mean the travel bag I use that has a light wire mesh liner? Costs oh, $20 and it holds my credit cards nicely as well.

Such bags have been proven to not work long-term for relatively powerful NF signals such as a passive keyless entry fob. You really need something that encases the key with few to no gaps in the metal.

Keep in mind that thieves with these devices are amplifying an existing signal. They're not doing that as much with credit cards with NF chips because that signal is far weaker, and the thief must be within a few feet of the card to pick one of those up. All one needs is a little bit of signal, man.

[nilaz]

Can someone ask BMW dealer to deactivate CA? I suppose it should be Software Funcrion in the car.

[jinda]

Originally Posted by Z K

Most cars will continue to run once started even if the key is not inside the car. This prevents problems when the wireless reception is not that good or if the battery dies in the key.

I dont get it. They can make it stop after a while the car can't detect the key.
If we lose signal or battery dies, we get a couple of minute warning for us to pull over and start the car manually using the key included in the keyfob.

That's what we have on our CX9.