[Drpoomanchu]

I will be finishing my FBO quest here soon. Looking at the VRSF intercooler but wanted to see if anyone has tested or had any data on this IC. Looks like a great value for the money. I live in Ohio and mainly cruise the streets/spirited driving. Will probably see little track time. Mods will be JB4, Armytrix axhaust, ER Catless DP, Dinan intake ER charge pipes. Will be looking into E85 / 93 mix normally.

[Mywifes335]

Older info but on similar product:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726163

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761043

[mike@x-ph.com]

the VRSF intercooler is a great option for daily drivers not looking to track their cars often

Quality product offered at a very reasonable price

[Tiago@VRSF]

The current FMIC is a great option for non track cars. Our upcoming race FMIC will fill that gap pretty well. It's going to be the largest FMIC on this platform

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The current FMIC is a great option for non track cars. Our upcoming race FMIC will fill that gap pretty well. It's going to be the largest FMIC on this platform

Cant wait

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The current FMIC is a great option for non track cars. Our upcoming race FMIC will fill that gap pretty well. It's going to be the largest FMIC on this platform

Do you have a roll out date..? Will this be similar to your 7" intercooler.? Maybe a group buy preorder..? I am interested already...

[dAPEX]

I am happy with my VRSF, although, admittedly I did not log before the intercooler upgrade. Fitment was spot on and the design seems to be good.

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by dAPEX

I am happy with my VRSF, although, admittedly I did not log before the intercooler upgrade. Fitment was spot on and the design seems to be good.

Thnx for the reply, almost pulled the trigger on one but thought it may be a good idea to log stocker then go FBO and get some good data. Still on the fence between VRSF, ATM, Wagner perf II (which only comes in blk )

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The current FMIC is a great option for non track cars. Our upcoming race FMIC will fill that gap pretty well. It's going to be the largest FMIC on this platform

Any ETA on the new IC?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thnx for the reply, almost pulled the trigger on one but thought it may be a good idea to log stocker then go FBO and get some good data. Still on the fence between VRSF, ATM, Wagner perf II (which only comes in blk )

Daily driver VRSF or Wagner EVO I

FBO or track Wagner EVO II or wait for the bigger VRSF

[Drpoomanchu]

Thought i would rehash this thread. I was wanting to see if anyone had any data on the VRSF fmic. I am an intercooler short of FBO and in need of one. I originally waited on VRSF to release their (Race) intercooler and CP's but think its overkill for my needs. Im on Map5 with 3-4gal E85 to 93oct wanting to know how much performance difference is between say Wagner EVO II and VRSF or ER at FBO. there is a pretty descent price difference between the VRSF and the competition. I am not trying to look down on VRSF for great pricing but I also dont want to spend less and cut myself out of performance and in the same respect dont want to spend $400 more for no good reason. Can someone in the know tell me which FMIC would be better geared to FBO applications..?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thought i would rehash this thread. I was wanting to see if anyone had any data on the VRSF fmic. I am an intercooler short of FBO and in need of one. I originally waited on VRSF to release their (Race) intercooler and CP's but think its overkill for my needs. Im on Map5 with 3-4gal E85 to 93oct wanting to know how much performance difference is between say Wagner EVO II and VRSF or ER at FBO. there is a pretty descent price difference between the VRSF and the competition. I am not trying to look down on VRSF for great pricing but I also dont want to spend less and cut myself out of performance and in the same respect dont want to spend $400 more for no good reason. Can someone in the know tell me which FMIC would be better geared to FBO applications..?

Do you track the car often? Do you push the car hard? Does it get really hot in your area?

[Drpoomanchu]

Not much in the way of tracking but otherwise yes and it has been miserably hot in Ohio this summer and IAT's 120+ after a pull or two.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Not much in the way of tracking but otherwise yes and it has been miserably hot in Ohio this summer and IAT's 120+ after a pull or two.

Since it is that hot i would go with Wagner EVO 2 performance or wait for the VRSF race

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The current FMIC is a great option for non track cars. Our upcoming race FMIC will fill that gap pretty well. It's going to be the largest FMIC on this platform

Have your current IC, will probably upgrade to your new one

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thought i would rehash this thread. I was wanting to see if anyone had any data on the VRSF fmic. I am an intercooler short of FBO and in need of one. I originally waited on VRSF to release their (Race) intercooler and CP's but think its overkill for my needs. Im on Map5 with 3-4gal E85 to 93oct wanting to know how much performance difference is between say Wagner EVO II and VRSF or ER at FBO. there is a pretty descent price difference between the VRSF and the competition. I am not trying to look down on VRSF for great pricing but I also dont want to spend less and cut myself out of performance and in the same respect dont want to spend $400 more for no good reason. Can someone in the know tell me which FMIC would be better geared to FBO applications..?

Been in the 90s here in SoCal for about the last month. Have had no IAT issues during daily driving with multiple pulls.

For the street the VRSF is perfect in my opinion. I even planned on using it for track days, but since they are releasing another IC I figured I should upgrade. My standard VRSF will be up for sale as soon as I get their upgrade. They should send me a production model to test and log the IATs

My buddy with a M2 and I did multiple back-to-back pulls the other night. He's FBO w/JB4 but stock IC. I'm FBO w/jb4 with VRSF IC.

At the end of numerous back to back pulls he saw his IATs peak at 160* which caused some timing issues. I was at ~125* and timing was great.

FWIW we were dead even. Just depends on what gear/mph the cars are in. He's 7spd DCT. I'm 8AT.

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

Been in the 90s here in SoCal for about the last month. Have had no IAT issues during daily driving with multiple pulls.

For the street the VRSF is perfect in my opinion. I even planned on using it for track days, but since they are releasing another IC I figured I should upgrade. My standard VRSF will be up for sale as soon as I get their upgrade. They should send me a production model to test and log the IATs

My buddy with a M2 and I did multiple back-to-back pulls the other night. He's FBO w/JB4 but stock IC. I'm FBO w/jb4 with VRSF IC.

At the end of numerous back to back pulls he saw his IATs peak at 160* which caused some timing issues. I was at ~125* and timing was great.

FWIW we were dead even. Just depends on what gear/mph the cars are in. He's 7spd DCT. I'm 8AT.

Thnx great info... where has you car been settling in normally as opposed to ambient..? Here in ohio its been upper 80's to 90's with high humidity and heat soak + IAT's have been bad even under normal driving with a little pull here or there sits at 120+

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thnx great info... where has you car been settling in normally as opposed to ambient..? Here in ohio its been upper 80's to 90's with high humidity and heat soak + IAT's have been bad even under normal driving with a little pull here or there sits at 120+

After some stop and go traffic I'm usually about 15*-20* above ambient. This is just normal driving (no WOT pulls or anything).

If I quickly jump on the freeway after starting the car it's not unusual to see only a 5*-10* difference above ambient.

With my stock IC it would basically double those #'s.

For a WOT pull with my current IC I usually only see an increase of about 20* over starting IAT. Multiple back to back pulls (4+ pulls) get me about 30* above the IAT starting point. FYI these are logging pulls (2.5k to redline). What's cool (pun) is that with my IC you will actually see the IATs drop about 5* for the first 2000 rpm of a full pull

You can easily double those #'s on stock IC after a sigle WOT pull. As my buddy in his M2 did. It was bad to the point we had to stop doing the runs.

For a FBO car with a tune an IC makes a huge difference in keeping IAT down and from bad timing issues after a few runs.

I recommend doing the CP at the sometime.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

After some stop and go traffic I'm usually about 15*-20* above ambient. This is just normal driving (no WOT pulls or anything).

If I quickly jump on the freeway after starting the car it's not unusual to see only a 5*-10* difference above ambient.

With my stock IC it would basically double those #'s.

For a WOT pull with my current IC I usually only see an increase of about 20* over starting IAT. Multiple back to back pulls (4+ pulls) get me about 30* above the IAT starting point. FYI these are logging pulls (2.5k to redline).

You can easily double those #'s on stock IC after a sigle WOT pull. As my buddy in his M2 did. It was bad to the point we had to stop doing the runs.

For a FBO car with a tune an IC makes a huge difference in keeping IAT down and from bad timing issues after a few runs.

I recommend doing the CP at the sometime.

Glad you are happy with the FMIC

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

After some stop and go traffic I'm usually about 15*-20* above ambient. This is just normal driving (no WOT pulls or anything).

If I quickly jump on the freeway after starting the car it's not unusual to see only a 5*-10* difference above ambient.

With my stock IC it would basically double those #'s.

For a WOT pull with my current IC I usually only see an increase of about 20* over starting IAT. Multiple back to back pulls (4+ pulls) get me about 30* above the IAT starting point. FYI these are logging pulls (2.5k to redline). What's cool (pun) is that with my IC you will actually see the IATs drop about 5* for the first 2000 rpm of a full pull

You can easily double those #'s on stock IC after a sigle WOT pull. As my buddy in his M2 did. It was bad to the point we had to stop doing the runs.

For a FBO car with a tune an IC makes a huge difference in keeping IAT down and from bad timing issues after a few runs.

I recommend doing the CP at the sometime.

Thnx again. Sounds like a solid piece. Yes, def doing cp at the same time as IC but stock cp is still holding out (Fingers crossed). Just dont want to go too small and end up in the situation you are going through at the moment. I know IC's are not a one size fits all situation so just trying to buy it right the first time and have no regrets.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thnx again. Sounds like a solid piece. Yes, def doing cp at the same time as IC but stock cp is still holding out (Fingers crossed). Just dont want to go too small and end up in the situation you are going through at the moment. I know IC's are not a one size fits all situation so just trying to buy it right the first time and have no regrets.

It's not that it's too small. It's comparable to any of the other intercoolers out on the market for street and occasional track use.

There are draw backs to going with the larger intercooler. Weight and increased turbo lag being the main negatives.

If you plan on staying on the stock turbo and it's more of a street car the v1 intercooler will be fine.

[10dhanoai]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Thnx again. Sounds like a solid piece. Yes, def doing cp at the same time as IC but stock cp is still holding out (Fingers crossed). Just dont want to go too small and end up in the situation you are going through at the moment. I know IC's are not a one size fits all situation so just trying to buy it right the first time and have no regrets.

I did the ER Charge pipe with the VRSF intercooler (smaller size) and everything bolted right up. I also live in Ohio and see the exact same results as Anthony235. The most I ever see is 30 above starting IAT and my record hi is 33. That was that one day in July when we were in the mid 90's. I did not log when I was stock. I also have a BMS intake, JB4 map 5 e85/93, and VRSF Catless DP. Thanks to Mike from x-ph