[Powaup]

Originally Posted by W///

I wouldn't get rid of my M3 for an M235i. Only add.

and im guessing you would lease the m235 for 3 years? if you were to get one that is

[Condensed 1ntesity]

Originally Posted by Stohlen

I feel like i'm the only one disappointed in the look of this car. Looks too grown up to me. Not enough sporty and too much business class

I agree, thats what set the 1 apart from the 3...it was young, sporty and fun

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I totally agree--make it normal production run ///M...build 3 M3/4s for every M2 if you want, but don't make the damn thing impossible to get for a normal person.

Also, with a longer production run, more people will actually be able to plan for the car and get it at a time that makes sense for their respective situations. Doesn't seem too hard for me...

Im even ok with the production numbers that the 1M had annuall(y) but make it so for an entire life cycle. I.e. 3-5 years @ 2000-4000 units per year worldwide.

[Condensed 1ntesity]

If i could take the front headlights of the 2 and the rear lights of the 1....PERFECT LOOKS, in every way

[Blunt Force Silvio]

M2 anyone?

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Blunt Force Silvio

M2 anyone?


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To bring the car to the same visual drama as the 1er M Coupe I would guess that the intake sculpture would probably extend and connect to the lower surface treatment in the flank.

I was told today that you might get an early Christmas gift with the first prototypes at the end or turn of the year.

Seen this on the other thread. So I will reply here.

Scott26: i've spoken to someone who told me that there is NO 2 Gran Coupe (4 door) in the pipeline at all. No plans to make a 4 door. This is contrary to what you've stated in the past. I've also been told the M2 is "42 months away". Any further thoughts or updates regarding these 2 ideas/cars?

A 4dr model of the 2er has been designed. And make no mistake BMW are interested in such a model because it adds consistency to the Gran Coupe series and would be a successful profit unit.
The car is viable because of the modular architecture within the platform.

The car won't appear tomorrow. At least we are looking at a possible mid-late 2015 introduction. BMW need to assess the reaction regarding the CLA and A3 Sedan in regards to how they affect the next step ie C-Klasse and A4 especially in regards to upcoming replacements.

Another factor is at best the car will be a four seater and rear passenger leg room will not be class leading. But as some have said the potential for a four dr is high given the lukewarm reaction to the CLA et all and there is awareness that there is a grand opportunity to gate crash the segment and dominate because there is potential in the new 2er , a lot more potential especially the Gran Coupe.

For the time being the regular 2er can stand up to the CLA and all even minus the rear doors.

The next part of the 2er family commences next year with the launch of the 2er Cabrio along with a new entry petrol model and mid range diesel (European market only) and the 2er Cabrio in time from the summer six months from now.
Also arriving gives an indication of the future generations showing a series split between FWD and RWD.

The BMW 2er Active Tourer will premiere in Geneva March 2014. Introduction will be in the new year. For the segment the BMW will be the most driver orientated vehicle in its respective class.

[julio91]

I kinda hope BMW brings the cloth to the states I really liking the blue stitching looks pretty legit

[Blunt Force Silvio]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

To bring the car to the same visual drama as the 1er M Coupe I would guess that the intake sculpture would probably extend and connect to the lower surface treatment in the flank.

... M2 anyone?

[solstice]

A NA version of the S55 running to 9000 rpm in the M2 please That should also save 100 lbs or so of Turbo stuff. Add some CF and Alu to drop another 150 lbs and we have an absolute barn stormer to rule the track and streets GT3 style.

[touringfanatic]

Originally Posted by PhillyNate

Nice car but I am absolutely bewildered as to what BMW does engine wise for an M2. If indication is correct that there'll be an M2 what motor? M3/4 and M235i both have 3.0 liter inline sixes approximately 100 horsepower apart. What do you do now? Maybe I'm overthinking...
Do you detune the M3/4 engine or try and squeeze 50 MORE horses outta the N55?

+1 M2 seems a bit redundant and squeezing a little to tight between the two and M235i has more MSport dna than some pure m models. However if the m235i is offered with electric steering and m2 with hydraulic there might just be that much space left

[Mahlzeit]

Originally Posted by solstice

A NA version of the S55 running to 9000 rpm in the M2 please That should also save 100 lbs or so of Turbo stuff. Add some CF and Alu to drop another 150 lbs and we have an absolute barn stormer to rule the track and streets GT3 style.

I see what you're saying - but now that I've been sampling n54 torque levels - I will REALLY have a tough time going back to a gutless low-end. And that's after having built an e36 M3 to 11:1 compression, cams, etc,... screamed like a banshee.

But, in my opinion:

Keep the turbos,... and make sure the M2 has 6 cyls. Take it from the M3/4, or tweak the n55 - I don't care. Just keep the torque, and give me a reasonably high redline. 7k will suffice.

[Mahlzeit]

Originally Posted by Blunt Force Silvio

... M2 anyone?

Now just give the side vents the depth of your first p-chop. And, then PERFECTION.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by touringfanatic

+1 M2 seems a bit redundant and squeezing a little to tight between the two and M235i has more MSport dna than some pure m models. However if the m235i is offered with electric steering and m2 with hydraulic there might just be that much space left

Or say a ~380 hp high revving NA version of the S55 and make it 200 lbs lighter than the M3/M4. It would be a vastly different beast fro the M235i and M3/M4 that have a lot less overall power than the F8Xs and not infringe on it's performance superiority but for many it would be a greater car and truer to M heritage.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Mahlzeit

I see what you're saying - but now that I've been sampling n54 torque levels - I will REALLY have a tough time going back to a gutless low-end. And that's after having built an e36 M3 to 11:1 compression, cams, etc,... screamed like a banshee.

But, in my opinion:

Keep the turbos,... and make sure the M2 has 6 cyls. Take it from the M3/4, or tweak the n55 - I don't care. Just keep the torque, and give me a reasonably high redline. 7k will suffice.

Then you have the M3/M4 to suit you perfectly ( or a tuned M235i ). I've owned the N54, N55 and the S65 ( and many other NA BMW cars before ). I like the turbo engines but love the NA M engines. A NA S55 version in the M2 would give us all a choice to what we like the best, again a page from Porsche with their turbo/turbo S and GT3.

[blacknbean]

wow actually better than i expected. only negative for me is the rear bumper. i see a big aftermarket for rear diffusors coming lol. well done bmw

[Ayrton91]

Originally Posted by Moo

M2 please!

+1!!!

[Greenkirby21]

PLZ PLZ PLZ BMWWW

I want the M235i with Dakota Lather Oyster/Dark interior like in the "modern" line. Normal Oyster is lame x[

[JButtonMCL]

Jason: Will their actually be a 2 series GC in the not-so distant future? within 2 years?

[GFK007]

I really want to see a picture of the 19s, as I think the car needs a wider stance.

May get the M performance suspension just to make it look a little bit more aggressive.

I'm sure it's already been answered, but when are we seeing deliveries??

[silverstone_ttlz4]

Any idea when we can expect an ordering guide with prices? How long after a car is shown do they release that information?

[solstice]

Originally Posted by GFK007

I really want to see a picture of the 19s, as I think the car needs a wider stance.

May get the M performance suspension just to make it look a little bit more aggressive.

I'm sure it's already been answered, but when are we seeing deliveries??

As it looks from the German order guide the 19s will not be any wider just taller. I agree that it will need 19s to balance the design and the 10mm extra drop from the perf. suspension should complete the side profile. I hope the US guide will have wider 19 wheels and rubber but I doubt it.

[doo13sky]

Originally Posted by solstice

As it looks from the German order guide the 19s will not be any wider just taller. I agree that it will need 19s to balance the design and the 10mm extra drop from the perf. suspension should complete the side profile. I hope the US guide will have wider 19 wheels and rubber but I doubt it.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...ies_3door.html I guess M Performance parts from M135i will fit nice - like 19 wheels and black "side sticker"... http://youtu.be/6lVRuANgx6Q