[AlexBeuro]

What options do I have for a set of coilovers for the m240i.? Same set up as m235i? If im not mistaken some come with the option of using the damper control the car comes with and some don't. If I choose to buy a set without the dampening control would it affect anything else apart from not activating the sport and comfort mode for suspension? Thanks for the help! New to BMWs.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by AlexBeuro

What options do I have for a set of coilovers for the m240i.? Same set up as m235i? If im not mistaken some come with the option of using the damper control the car comes with and some don't. If I choose to buy a set without the dampening control would it affect anything else apart from not activating the sport and comfort mode for suspension? Thanks for the help! New to BMWs.

same options as the m235i. They use all of the same suspension parts. KW Coilovers have an option for the EDC compatibility, but they're pretty pricey (I've seen $5-6k). If you get coilovers that don't have the EDC compatibility, then the only thing that would be affected would be the "chassis" tuning that can be enabled and disabled when changing sport and comfort modes like you mentioned. I don't know if it would cause a CEL or not, but I know KW suspension has an option for an EDC delete for the m235i so there may or may not be a reason for the kit.

[AlexBeuro]

Yea thats what I understood from my research.. The bilstein ones seem pretty good and I dont care much about the chassis adjustment after coils anyway.

[mikeyymonster]

Originally Posted by Joe240

same options as the m235i. They use all of the same suspension parts. KW Coilovers have an option for the EDC compatibility, but they're pretty pricey (I've seen $5-6k). If you get coilovers that don't have the EDC compatibility, then the only thing that would be affected would be the "chassis" tuning that can be enabled and disabled when changing sport and comfort modes like you mentioned. I don't know if it would cause a CEL or not, but I know KW suspension has an option for an EDC delete for the m235i so there may or may not be a reason for the kit.

I have the KW DDC coilovers installed on my m235i which are compatible with my EDC. They are closer to the 3K range and not 5-6K. Install varies but it'll be around 3-500 so you're looking at around $3500 out the door if anyone is interested in this set up.

[Joe240]

I thought the KW DDC kit used an app on your phone to control the damping, not the driving experience button in the center?

[Tpeterson]

Originally Posted by Lazee 1

I have the KW DDC coilovers installed on my m235i which are compatible with my EDC. They are closer to the 3K range and not 5-6K. Install varies but it'll be around 3-500 so you're looking at around $3500 out the door if anyone is interested in this set up.

Besides ride height adjustability,how much different are the KW DDC's from the stock springs and shocks in ride and handling? The KW website doesn't make any claims that I can find.
I priced them out closer to $5000 ,installed, for my 228i.They're $3500 at Turner Motorsport plus installation and tax.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Tpeterson

Besides ride height adjustability,how much different are the KW DDC's from the stock springs and shocks"? The KW website doesn't make any claims that I can find.
I priced them out closer to $5000 ,installed, for my 228i.They're $3500 at Turner Motorsport plus installation and tax.

KW website says .2in in the front minimum and 0" in the rear minimum for drop numbers. Max is like 1.2 front and 1in rear.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by Lazee 1

I have the KW DDC coilovers installed on my m235i which are compatible with my EDC. They are closer to the 3K range and not 5-6K. Install varies but it'll be around 3-500 so you're looking at around $3500 out the door if anyone is interested in this set up.

Feedback on the KW DDC's? Have been strongly considering these. Aside from that, I really like Ohlins Suspension and is strongly suggested by a lot of my hardcore BMW/Porsche track buddies. And they have a great system for our cars too, affordable to boot, just no DDC (not a deal breaker but would be nice for road trips etc)

Edit: This is what I'm after, and at the same price as the DDC KW's it's a hard decision.

[Pparana]

Ohlins. KW is decent, DDC kit is not much better than stock. Just code out the EDC and your good. Turn a few clicks for road and few clicks for track.

[AlexBeuro]

Im not really going to the track with her to often but I woulnt mind something to give it a lower look and a comfortable ride lol So I think the KW's atm seem like a good fit.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by AlexBeuro

Im not really going to the track with her to often but I woulnt mind something to give it a lower look and a comfortable ride lol So I think the KW's atm seem like a good fit.

I would suggest saving a couple grand and just get springs then.

If you do go with coilovers just make sure they have the 5 bolt top hat and not the 3 bolt.

[mikeyymonster]

Originally Posted by Joe240

I thought the KW DDC kit used an app on your phone to control the damping, not the driving experience button in the center?

There are 2 versions of the KW DDC. The one that works with the M235i is a plug and play version and uses your oem buttons to adjust the damping. As such, you are not given an additional button or the capability to adjust using the smartphone. The other version of the kit does NOT work with OEM buttons and you have to utilize their version of the button. It is not recommended to use this for the F22.

[mikeyymonster]

Originally Posted by Tpeterson

Besides ride height adjustability,how much different are the KW DDC's from the stock springs and shocks in ride and handling? The KW website doesn't make any claims that I can find.
I priced them out closer to $5000 ,installed, for my 228i.They're $3500 at Turner Motorsport plus installation and tax.

Pricing depends on where you are located I guess. In terms of driving experience, it is definitely stiffer than stock, especially the sport and sport+ modes. I was looking for a kit that had the ability to adjust ride height and allow me to utilize my oem buttons for damping so this kit was a perfect solution. I don't really track the car so if that's your thing you may want to just get a more aggressive system and code out the EDC. I do find myself constantly adjusting between comfort and sport mode depending on my mood so I'm definitely glad I have that ability with this kit.

[mikeyymonster]

I'm going to tag abirmaher because he's the only other person I know of that has this in case he has anything he wants to add.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by Lazee 1

Pricing depends on where you are located I guess. In terms of driving experience, it is definitely stiffer than stock, especially the sport and sport+ modes. I was looking for a kit that had the ability to adjust ride height and allow me to utilize my oem buttons for damping so this kit was a perfect solution. I don't really track the car so if that's your thing you may want to just get a more aggressive system and code out the EDC. I do find myself constantly adjusting between comfort and sport mode depending on my mood so I'm definitely glad I have that ability with this kit.

How tight/firm does it feel in "sport" mode, now? When comparing to stock sport/regular modes. Thx,

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[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

Feedback on the KW DDC's? Have been strongly considering these. Aside from that, I really like Ohlins Suspension and is strongly suggested by a lot of my hardcore BMW/Porsche track buddies. And they have a great system for our cars too, affordable to boot, just no DDC (not a deal breaker but would be nice for road trips etc)

Edit: This is what I'm after, and at the same price as the DDC KW's it's a hard decision.

Between Ohlins R&T and KW, I think the choice is clear!

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Lazee 1

I'm going to tag abirmaher because he's the only other person I know of that has this in case he has anything he wants to add.

Honestly I couldn't compare to stock right now. I've been running these for tens of thousands of miles and ran sport springs prior from 1200 miles. I will be driving a stock car very soon and can do some better comparison when I do that.

My car also has M3/4 lower control arms and front and rear sway bars so those will play into the difference in feeling as well.

[Pnorth]

Have you also had a look at the JRZ coilovers? You can get a delete, you have three different versions with camberplates and three using the original topmunt. For me they beat all of the above mentioned. Read more here to see some samples. https://europeanautosource.com/blog/tag/jrz.html

[HP Autosport]

JRZ track and race products are great, but their road product isn't as robust.

Noise is the most common problem. Although their warranty is great, dampers often need to be send to Netherlands for warranty repair or replacement.

A similar product line that is semi custom would be MCS, based here in the US with a much shorter turnaround time.

[Pnorth]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

JRZ track and race products are great, but their road product isn't as robust.

Noise is the most common problem. Although their warranty is great, dampers often need to be send to Netherlands for warranty repair or replacement.

A similar product line that is semi custom would be MCS, based here in the US with a much shorter turnaround time.

What do you mean with " isn't as robust " ?

[Pnorth]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Between Ohlins R&T and KW, I think the choice is clear!

Another question, you recommend öhlins, but they don't even have a damper for the f22. I personally spoke with them in Sweden a couple of weeks ago...

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by Pnorth

What do you mean with " isn't as robust " ?

Noise and leaks are often concerns with the RS1 and 2 products.