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      03-09-2014, 09:05 AM   #177
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Same car??? I hope not...

Nope. Different car.
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      03-09-2014, 05:17 PM   #178
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I love the white. Looks amazing.
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      03-10-2014, 09:10 AM   #179
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8 spds are nt going to give it any edge in acceleration. Infact just the opposite will occur. This thing needs the old trusted 7 spd DCT. There's no need fr all these damn gears. Just a simple rear axle ratio change is all that's needed to improve mpgs. These more and more gears things is a stupid game to be first at the new stuff in the car. Manufactures need to keep it real. Enough with being first with this and that. Bring back some quality some day this decade before the economy collapses.
I was kind of suprised that Mini stuck with a 6 speed auto on the new model. I guess with all the Fiat/Chrysler issues with the new 9 speed ZF it was a good move. Do you know who builds the new Mini auto or is it the same supplier as before?
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      03-10-2014, 09:20 AM   #180
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8 spds are nt going to give it any edge in acceleration. Infact just the opposite will occur.

wont a car that stays in peak power for more of the time accelerate faster, ie a narrower gear ratio will keep power at max bhp rather than having a larger rev drop between changes?
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      03-10-2014, 09:28 AM   #181
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wont a car that stays in peak power for more of the time accelerate faster, ie a narrower gear ratio will keep power at max bhp rather than having a larger rev drop between changes?
Yes it will. Imagine the opposite. a car with only three gears.There will be a greater chance of it labouring.
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      03-10-2014, 09:55 AM   #182
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wont a car that stays in peak power for more of the time accelerate faster, ie a narrower gear ratio will keep power at max bhp rather than having a larger rev drop between changes?
I think he was confusing the matter. More gears means better acceleration because the gears are shorter and the engine can stay in the sweet spot. However, in real world driving, if you're cruising along in 8th and you want to get maximum acceleration, the tranny has to drop to 3rd, which adds a delay to the acceleration. That's more for NA engines though, because FI engines tend to make tons of torque down low so you can get reasonable acceleration even in high gears. Part of the reason I like the N54/55 engines so much.
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      03-10-2014, 09:59 AM   #183
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kinda sucks that the smallest BMW gets left out of the LED corona rings AGAIN. They never got put on the 1 and now left off the 2....
No LED corona rings? Huh? They sure are LED (unless you get a 228i without lighting package, then you don't get any rings). You can see the flickering of the LED rings in videos...I've also seen them in person at the dealer and they are the same as the LED rings as on my '14 X1.
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      03-10-2014, 10:01 AM   #184
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No LED corona rings? Huh? They sure are LED (unless you get a 228i without lighting package, then you don't get any rings). You can see the flickering of the LED rings in videos...I've also seen them in person at the dealer and they are the same as the LED rings as on my '14 X1.
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      03-10-2014, 10:11 AM   #185
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No LED corona rings? Huh? They sure are LED (unless you get a 228i without lighting package, then you don't get any rings). You can see the flickering of the LED rings in videos...I've also seen them in person at the dealer and they are the same as the LED rings as on my '14 X1.
I didn't think that the US 2ers had the LED corona rings either?

I thought that was a EU or ROW thing...might be wrong...
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the picture on my desk of the m235i has corona rings and xenons.

As for downshifts, the ZF8 will mutli downshift.
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      03-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #188
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I didn't think that the US 2ers had the LED corona rings either?

I thought that was a EU or ROW thing...might be wrong...
They have them! I've seen 'em in the flesh right next to my '14 X1...in the US! They are the same ones.
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They have them! I've seen 'em in the flesh right next to my '14 X1...in the US! They are the same ones.
Well it is good to be wrong then.

thanks for the confirmation !
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8 spds are nt going to give it any edge in acceleration. Infact just the opposite will occur. This thing needs the old trusted 7 spd DCT. There's no need fr all these damn gears. Just a simple rear axle ratio change is all that's needed to improve mpgs. These more and more gears things is a stupid game to be first with the new stuff in the car. Manufactures need to keep it real. Enough with being first with this and that. Bring back some quality some day this decade before the economy collapses.
Ah, no. The factory states that the M235i does 0 to 60 in 5.0 seconds with the 6-speed manual transmission and 4.8 seconds with the 8-speed automatic transmission. Recent reviews by popular magazine road testing drivers are consistently seeing 0 to 60 times of 4.3 to 4.5 seconds with the automatic transmission.
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      06-03-2014, 12:34 PM   #191
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Ah, no. The factory states that the M235i does 0 to 60 in 5.0 seconds with the 6-speed manual transmission and 4.8 seconds with the 8-speed automatic transmission. Recent reviews by popular magazine road testing drivers are consistently seeing 0 to 60 times of 4.3 to 4.5 seconds with the automatic transmission.
Indeed. I had an f30 328i M-Sport loaner for 2 weeks a while back and it most definitely accelerates quicker and shifts quicker than any BMW I've driven. I attribute that largely to the 8spd gearbox. While the constant shifting feels intrusive at times, it was definitely quick on the butt dyno.
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