M235i or 435i

mpbruin108 · 04-20-2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by punky8d

I agree.. I did miss the M4's power, but this seem to be more agile, so it's actually fun..
I'm new in the 2addicts forum and have been looking around what wheels can I get with this new toy. My only regret is the limited selection of wheels I can slap on these. I am a fan of Vorsteiner, but don't think they would work..

welcome to the 2 side. i came from m4 too

Mr Carrots · 04-20-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by punky8d

I agree.. I did miss the M4's power, but this seem to be more agile, so it's actually fun..
I'm new in the 2addicts forum and have been looking around what wheels can I get with this new toy. My only regret is the limited selection of wheels I can slap on these. I am a fan of Vorsteiner, but don't think they would work..

The replica 437's OEM concepts are selling on the tires forum are identical to the OEM versions, and putting 19"ers with 265's at the back really makes the car look more aggressive

throw in a splitter/lip and you've made your 2 series look like a big boy BMW

kevinf · 04-20-2017, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by punky8d

lol.. Yup asking on 2addicts forum may be biassed.
But then again, I have decided that M235i is more fun to drive.. Coming from a bigger sized car.

Thank you for everyone's constructive feedback.

Got a used 2016 M235i White DCT w/ premium and driver assistance:

Congrats on the car. But just so you know M235i's do not come with DCT. it's the regular 8speed auto.

punky8d · 04-20-2017, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinf

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Originally Posted by punky8d

lol.. Yup asking on 2addicts forum may be biassed.
But then again, I have decided that M235i is more fun to drive.. Coming from a bigger sized car.

Thank you for everyone's constructive feedback.

Got a used 2016 M235i White DCT w/ premium and driver assistance:

Congrats on the car. But just so you know M235i's do not come with DCT. it's the regular 8speed auto.

Ah! Thanks for the info. Good to know..

Don't know the difference. Coming from a purist 6MT driver..

Vyruz Reaper · 05-10-2017, 12:44 PM

Great choice. I recently got rid of my 435 after owning my 240 for a few months.

Obviously it's subjective to everyone's needs, but I haven't looked back and having so much fun with my new set of wheels

mrfattbill · 05-10-2017, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ABPReader

The interior changes a little bit, but not something relevant.

2014 matt black plastic:

2016 gloss black:

As the M235i is more fun to drive and we're biased on the 2er forum, go for the M235i and don't look back

I'd much rather have the matte finish in that spot as opposed to the glossy finish.

Bill

x97Melbourne · 05-13-2017, 10:19 PM

As a current 435i owner, I'd say for sure get the 235i if they have one you like.

I wanted a 235i from the beginning....the only reason I have a 435 is because that's the only model they had in a M/T and I didn't want to order a fresh car.

As much as I like the 235 (looks, agility, performance, driving feel) there is no way on this earth I'd drive an automatic BMW. So, the 235 wasn't an option for me.

So....I do love the 435, but wish I had the 235 (and would like to save a few bucks along the way also). For the record, the 4-series is more of a "touring car" The 2-series is more of a pocket rocket.... meant to go go go and have fun doing it.

123Britt · 05-14-2017, 06:16 AM

I agree with the prior post and the M/T . I love changing gears and never thought in a million years would I choose an auto over the manual. Until I drove the 8sp ZF in the M235i. It really makes the 2 so quick and it shifts as though it can read my mind. Sport+

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Rayscott · 05-14-2017, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by punky8d

lol.. Yup asking on 2addicts forum may be biassed.
But then again, I have decided that M235i is more fun to drive.. Coming from a bigger sized car.

Thank you for everyone's constructive feedback.

Got a used 2016 M235i White DCT w/ premium and driver assistance:

Good choice, more fun to drive.

3.0L · 05-14-2017, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

As much as I like the 235 (looks, agility, performance, driving feel) there is no way on this earth I'd drive an automatic BMW. So, the 235 wasn't an option for me.

You might possibly find yourself rethinking this down the road a few years, after your left knee starts failing. Happened to me.

Sportstick · 05-14-2017, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3.0L

You might possibly find yourself rethinking this down the road a few years, after your left knee starts failing. Happened to me.

Sorry about your knee, but the outcome may not be universal....

x97Melbourne · 05-14-2017, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 123Britt

I agree with the prior post and the M/T . I love changing gears and never thought in a million years would I choose an auto over the manual. Until I drove the 8sp ZF in the M235i. It really makes the 2 so quick and it shifts as though it can read my mind. Sport+

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I think this is the transmission that my previous car had -- 2014 335i -- that's the same trans right? ZF 8-speed?

That's one thing about the car I didn't like at all -- and made me start to shop around for a new car. Yeah, when you floor it the shifts are lightning quick and the car goes like a bat out of hell. But that's not how I drive normally. In everyday traffic, I disliked the transmission. Passengers would even notice the lack of performance FEEL. Common downshifts under light to moderate acceleration (to merge or just to do an easy pass) were slow and labored. I know people will say "use sport mode" and, yes, this did help a little!

I GREATLY prefer the old BMW 6-speed Automatic to this new 8-speed. 8 speeds is too many, the car is always hunting / shifting. With the 6-speed automatic, it seemed to always be in the right gear. The car is so torquey, there's no need to get out of 4th gear around town. This new 8-speed was always hunting. And just so we're clear ... the 8-speed was developed for FUEL ECONOMY per gov't regulations and for curb appeal. All the car companies are under pressure to increase fuel econ to certain levels. President Trump is trying to modify and possibly repeal some of the regulations. (I'm not being political, I'm just stating a fact)

I'm not dissing the automatic -- to each his own!!! I just disliked it. If the 6-speed A/T was available I would have chosen that. But, obviously it's not, so the 6-speed manual was a great fit for me. I really like it, especially in sport mode! Car is so much more responsive than my old 335i. Great times!

Benandluna · 05-14-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

I think this is the transmission that my previous car had -- 2014 335i -- that's the same trans right? ZF 8-speed?

That's one thing about the car I didn't like at all -- and made me start to shop around for a new car. Yeah, when you floor it the shifts are lightning quick and the car goes like a bat out of hell. But that's not how I drive normally. In everyday traffic, I disliked the transmission. Passengers would even notice the lack of performance FEEL. Common downshifts under light to moderate acceleration (to merge or just to do an easy pass) were slow and labored. I know people will say "use sport mode" and, yes, this did help a little!

I GREATLY prefer the old BMW 6-speed Automatic to this new 8-speed. 8 speeds is too many, the car is always hunting / shifting. With the 6-speed automatic, it seemed to always be in the right gear. The car is so torquey, there's no need to get out of 4th gear around town. This new 8-speed was always hunting. And just so we're clear ... the 8-speed was developed for FUEL ECONOMY per gov't regulations and for curb appeal. All the car companies are under pressure to increase fuel econ to certain levels. President Trump is trying to modify and possibly repeal some of the regulations. (I'm not being political, I'm just stating a fact)

I'm not dissing the automatic -- to each his own!!! I just disliked it. If the 6-speed A/T was available I would have chosen that. But, obviously it's not, so the 6-speed manual was a great fit for me. I really like it, especially in sport mode! Car is so much more responsive than my old 335i. Great times!

I had an 09 135i. My 235i tranny feels so much better. Maybe because of the tunes I have. Both were tuned though

P2 · 05-15-2017, 04:54 AM

2 has better crash ratings than the 3. The 4, while not tested by the IIHS, is based on the 3. I was told by BMW to expect the same crash results.
Just something to think about.

wdc330i · 05-15-2017, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by P2

2 has better crash ratings than the 3. The 4, while not tested by the IIHS, is based on the 3. I was told by BMW to expect the same crash results.
Just something to think about.

Are they in the same size classification, or is it an apples and oranges thing?

Edit: Both classified as Mid-Size Luxury, FWIW.

Sportstick · 05-15-2017, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i

Are they in the same size classification, or is it an apples and oranges thing?

Edit: Both classified as Mid-Size Luxury, FWIW.

Classification for impact purposes is within 500lbs of the comparison car, so need to check the weights. As I recall 2 and 3/4 are fairly close, but I don't have the numbers handy now.

punky8d · 05-15-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

As much as I like the 235 (looks, agility, performance, driving feel) there is no way on this earth I'd drive an automatic BMW. So, the 235 wasn't an option for me.

You might possibly find yourself rethinking this down the road a few years, after your left knee starts failing. Happened to me.

lol what a coincidence on your post, yesterday I was out in the wilderness hiking and my left knee was actually causing me trouble..

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I posted on Instagram mentioning this.
@pduero

05-10-2017, 12:44 PM	#27
Vyruz Reaper Reverse Homer 151 Rep 1,064 Posts Drives: ///M240i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sunny SoCal iTrader: (6)	Great choice. I recently got rid of my 435 after owning my 240 for a few months. Obviously it's subjective to everyone's needs, but I haven't looked back and having so much fun with my new set of wheels
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x97Melbourne Molar World 47 Rep 916 Posts Drives: 2016 435i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	As a current 435i owner, I'd say for sure get the 235i if they have one you like. I wanted a 235i from the beginning....the only reason I have a 435 is because that's the only model they had in a M/T and I didn't want to order a fresh car. As much as I like the 235 (looks, agility, performance, driving feel) there is no way on this earth I'd drive an automatic BMW. So, the 235 wasn't an option for me. So....I do love the 435, but wish I had the 235 (and would like to save a few bucks along the way also). For the record, the 4-series is more of a "touring car" The 2-series is more of a pocket rocket.... meant to go go go and have fun doing it. __________________ Current: 2016 435i Coupe Previous: 2014 335i Sedan; 2013 328i Cv, 2011 335i Sedan Gone But Not Forgotten: 2008 135i Convertible (my favorite)
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123Britt Captain 289 Rep 864 Posts Drives: 15 M235i AT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Madison, Alabama iTrader: (0)	M/T VS AUTO I agree with the prior post and the M/T . I love changing gears and never thought in a million years would I choose an auto over the manual. Until I drove the 8sp ZF in the M235i. It really makes the 2 so quick and it shifts as though it can read my mind. Sport+ . .
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P2 First Lieutenant 53 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M-Sport eDrive 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NW Chicago Land iTrader: (0)	2 has better crash ratings than the 3. The 4, while not tested by the IIHS, is based on the 3. I was told by BMW to expect the same crash results. Just something to think about.
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