M2 has fixed dampers and no adjustable throttle/gear/steering?

metrickid · 10-22-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

I'm still confused how you are supposed to change the DCT and EDC settings if there are not stand alone buttons for it like there has always been? Through iDrive? But then you don't have an M-button to store it anyway, so how does that work?

My guess is you can preset the steering, engine and DCT on the different drive modes on the iDrive. So efficient, comfort and sport can be configured or are pre-configured.

W/// · 10-22-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossifumi

My guess is you can preset the steering, engine and DCT on the different drive modes on the iDrive. So efficient, comfort and sport can be configured or are pre-configured.

That would be an awesome way to do things. Interested to see how that pans out, although if I were building mine, none of it would matter anyway.

Passive shocks and 6MT

metrickid · 10-22-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

That would be an awesome way to do things. Interested to see how that pans out, although if I were building mine, none of it would matter anyway.

Passive shocks and 6MT

Passive shocks is what we all get. But steering, transmission, suspension and throttle response is already changed with the driving mode button on the normal series cars so I guess it will here too. Hopefully it will be configureable though.

trebled · 10-22-2015, 02:12 PM

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Yeah, please post when you are back at the weekend mate. Even a pic from your iPhone will be fine!

I'll do it in a minute - I don't want to attach the document - I will be abusing a confidence.

KevinM · 10-22-2015, 02:22 PM

I'm not sure I'd order adaptive suspension on this car given it's nature, but I will if I order an F80.

Sure-fire way to believe that any passive M suspension is not too harsh: drive an E86 M coupe (or E85 M roadster, I suspect) for a week!

And, I wouldn't have it any softer in that car.

M has done a great job with passive suspensions over the years. Even so many years later, I still find the stock suspension on my E39 M5 to be perfect both for daily driving and for more aggressive driving.

trebled · 10-22-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trebled

I'll do it in a minute - I don't want to attach the document - I will be abusing a confidence.

Here is the relevant page. It is from BMW's internal 10 page "Product Launch Guide".

metrickid · 10-22-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by trebled

Here is the relevant page. It is from BMW's internal 10 page "Product Launch Guide".

Probably an old guide as it is not included in all the press releases and country specific websites about the M2. BMW.com still mentions a HUD for the M2 even though it won't have one so lots of cut and paste from the larger M's going on.

trebled · 10-22-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Probably an old guide as it is not included in all the press releases and country specific websites about the M2. BMW.com still mentions a HUD for the M2 even though it won't have one so lots of cut and paste from the larger M's going on.

It is an internal document for dealers/staff only so you should not find it anywhere. It was produced on 13th October and emailed to me on 16th October by BMW. Because I bought hundreds of new BMW's for one of the businesses I was involved with I am treated rather well by the dealer.

I agree it could be wrong. Mistakes do happen. I hope not because I love the switchable suspension. Some of the local Welsh roads are truly appalling.

And I have also officially ordered an M2 CSL although I do not know if it exists......

yhehdgjs · 10-22-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WAY

M2 doesn't have adaptive damper.

What? No adaptive damper?

swagon · 10-22-2015, 03:54 PM

Do you really think they would make such a mistake in the press release and communication? No way. I call BS.

trebled · 10-22-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Do you really think they would make such a mistake in the press release and communication? No way. I call BS.

I don't think so. I think it must have EDC/adaptive suspension. If a trusted member or moderator wants to PM me I will email them the document as long as they do not post it. My bollox will be in a sling........

Spook410 · 10-22-2015, 04:19 PM

This is a $1000 option on a 340i or M3. If it's standard on the M2 I will be very pleased.

We go by the best information available. If things change, they change.

Trebled: As much as I appreciate it, if it were me I would delete the post. Things have a way of catching up to you online and all this will be clear within days or weeks anyway. Better to maintain your relationship with BMW so we can harass you for inside info later

trebled · 10-22-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spook410

This is a $1000 option on a 340i or M3. If it's standard on the M2 I will be very pleased.

We go by the best information available. If things change, they change.

Trebled: As much as I appreciate it, if it were me I would delete the post. Things have a way of catching up to you online and all this will be clear within days or weeks anyway. Better to maintain your relationship with BMW so we can harass you for inside info later

Well, yes, on my first M135i it was an option at £515, not sure how much on my 2nd M135i. so I will be happy.

Thanx for your concern. I will be careful !! Interesting phone call will be when they ring me for a £500 deposit for the M2 CSL order. They couldn't ask me for one last week because it is scotch mist at the moment !

tc328 · 10-22-2015, 09:45 PM

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This really is disappointing, and even more strange as the M235i exists and occupies that "almost M" market niche... Ow well - even less jealous I will never have the M2, and will "have to" enjoy my "almost M" M235i

A comfort mode suspension is for my wife and her 5 series. My sports car needs to have one setting..stiff as shit.

Agree...m2 shouldnt be a daily driver

TTBear · 10-22-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tc328

Agree...m2 shouldnt be a daily driver

Why not? That's ludicrous. That's exactly what I plan on doing, including driving it through Canadian winters.

It will be a special car for sure, yes, but I believe the M2 will be a fantastic daily.

trebled · 10-23-2015, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TTBear

Why not? That's ludicrous. That's exactly what I plan on doing, including driving it through Canadian winters.

It will be a special car for sure, yes, but I believe the M2 will be a fantastic daily.

Although I am sitting in Wales I am a French-Canadian from Winnipeg so I know about winters ! M2 will work as a daily driver for me because I only drive about 10,000 miles per annum. In fact I cycle 15,000 miles per annum which is why I probably don't have time to drive more....!

If my race bike will not easily fit into the M2 without removing the front wheel I may keep the M135i. That is a point. I bought the M135i off the showroom floor on impulse when I took my previous M135i in for a service. It was £6k off list with 100 miles on the clock. It was perfect spec bar no heated seats and no folding mirrors. So, tongue in cheek, can I retro fit a heated steering wheel on the M135i and all I have to do on sub zero mornings is sit on the steering wheel for a couple of minutes to toast my butt !?

If I have a project which involves big mileage/commuting I invariably go out and buy a 335D Touring. I would/could never put massive mileage on an M car.

Gryzor · 10-23-2015, 07:00 AM

I noticed the page in question around dynamic suspension was posted, but I managed to get the guides photographed and sent to me. New thread is here:

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...1#post18793731

Spook410 · 10-23-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tc328

Agree...m2 shouldnt be a daily driver

Odd statement. Being a daily driver capable of heading to the track is BMW's primary design goal for all M cars.

trebled · 10-23-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spook410

Odd statement. Being a daily driver capable of heading to the track is BMW's primary design goal for all M cars.

Yep, agreed. Drove my M535i to about 20 races in 1989 and won about 10 of them. In 1990 drove my E30 M3 to a BMW Car Club race and won it.....obviously race prepared cars with cages BUT on treaded tyres. So it can be done !

TMP · 10-23-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gryzor

I noticed the page in question around dynamic suspension was posted, but I managed to get the guides photographed and sent to me. New thread is here:

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...1#post18793731

:thumbs: Thanks !

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