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      06-29-2016, 11:46 PM   #23
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I think it looks fine
It's really not
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      06-30-2016, 04:10 AM   #24
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This OP sounds like an 18 year old.
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You guys are pure crazy. It looks identical and depends on the angle of the panel and the light. The 3rd pic straight on shows no difference and frankly neither do the other images when you account for how mineral gray reflects the light. Now in real life maybe there's an issue but I don't see it in the pics and unless you went to wally world of body shops, I bet they used BMW mineral gray.

OP you're way to anxious and hyperactive about pretty much everything but whatever it's your car and your life to battle. Poor body shop has to deal with this.
No look at the pic he circled, its different. And if its different in a crappy picture its worse in person. Anyone here who says they would be OK with that on THEIR brand new $55k car is full of shit.

That being said, as someone said above this is pretty common with shops that don't specialize in painting. Due to the different material (plastic) and environmental conditions they don't have the ability to match it any better. I wouldn't really say its their fault as thats probably the best they can deliver.

You're in for a battle with insurance though. You might just have to eat the cost for iND to do it.
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      06-30-2016, 07:00 AM   #26
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My MG M2 had some damage before delivery. Look at that :





I was very lucky to dispose of pictures "before delivery" at my dealers place. I myself and even my dealer didn't notice the damage before delivery. It was only when I went to my detailer for the X-pel treatment that the damage was clearly visible.
So I claimed a complete new bumper to the dealer, which finally was accepted after a while and a lot discussion. Initially the dealer suggested a kind of "Quick Repair". That's a kind of heat up of the polyester bumper with a self repair as result. I refused as I bought a new car, not a repaired one.
But it was impossible to get a pre-painted bumper from Germany, so my dealer had to do the job.
And that was the result:





As you can see : Unacceptable !!!
And they did it a second time. Slightly better, but even then, not the same color.
I refused ones more.
Now the dealer suggested that "Quick Repair" again on the original bumper. He was convinced the result would be better, even invisible and I accepted. After two months I was sick of the situation.
The repaint now should be a lot easier as they only had to haze over the damaged zone. And indeed he was right, no more difference visible between hood and bumper.
Conclusion, that MG-color is a very difficult one to reproduce.

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I think the color match is as good as you are going to get-that MG is near impossible to match-for them to get it EXACT you might be talking numerous attempts-months
The pics from the above post are way worse than the OPs. I wouldnt settle for that but the op pics seem a lot closer
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This OP sounds like an 18 year old.
Sure, it was definitely childish of me to send that message but I was frustrated, so yeah.
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My MG M2 had some damage before delivery. Look at that :





I was very lucky to dispose of pictures "before delivery" at my dealers place. I myself and even my dealer didn't notice the damage before delivery. It was only when I went to my detailer for the X-pel treatment that the damage was clearly visible.
So I claimed a complete new bumper to the dealer, which finally was accepted after a while and a lot discussion. Initially the dealer suggested a kind of "Quick Repair". That's a kind of heat up of the polyester bumper with a self repair as result. I refused as I bought a new car, not a repaired one.
But it was impossible to get a pre-painted bumper from Germany, so my dealer had to do the job.
And that was the result:





As you can see : Unacceptable !!!
And they did it a second time. Slightly better, but even then, not the same color.
I refused ones more.
Now the dealer suggested that "Quick Repair" again on the original bumper. He was convinced the result would be better, even invisible and I accepted. After two months I was sick of the situation.
The repaint now should be a lot easier as they only had to haze over the damaged zone. And indeed he was right, no more difference visible between hood and bumper.
Conclusion, that MG-color is a very difficult one to reproduce.
That is absolutely unacceptable. Mine isn't as bad as that. I know that iND will match it extremely close, and that's what I'm going to try to do - have the bumper painted by them, then shipped out to me
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      06-30-2016, 07:57 AM   #30
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As someone above me already said, a metal part and a plastic part will never look 100% identical. The stock parts are not painted at the same time either so there are slight differences. Check out this image of a stock M2, you can find parts of the bumper and fender etc that doesn't look 100% there too depending on how the light catches the surfaces and a bunch of other things...

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You have a metallic car. Without spraying a larger area and blending it, its going to look like this.
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      06-30-2016, 08:37 AM   #32
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You have a metallic car. Without spraying a larger area and blending it, its going to look like this.
I guarantee iND would have it looking factory
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Seems like you are making way to much work out of a simple paint job. Your town is plenty big enough to have a qualified paint shop to match it as best as possible. Don't go to extremes...
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You have a metallic car. Without spraying a larger area and blending it, its going to look like this.
Paint is hard to match.

Metallic is harder to match.

Have not seen them in person but the M2 colors though very cool looking, look extremely hard to match. Even white is hard to match.

If you haven't removed all of the PPF and are not allowing them to blend that paint then you're kneecapping them and making the job infinitely harder to match.

Agree w/the plastic metal thing too.

All that said and based on the picture it does appear to be off more than I too would want it to be.
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Seems like you are making way to much work out of a simple paint job. Your town is plenty big enough to have a qualified paint shop to match it as best as possible. Don't go to extremes...
Agree that if this was an older car that I'd have it done locally, but I had the car for 5 weeks. It's a brand new model, and I am paying for the car to look like it did before the incident. I deserve to have the cars bumper matched as close to factory as possible, and to do that I need to use iND or a shop of that caliber.
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Agree that if this was an older car that I'd have it done locally, but I had the car for 5 weeks. It's a brand new model, and I am paying for the car to look like it did before the incident. I deserve to have the cars bumper matched as close to factory as possible, and to do that I need to use iND or a shop of that caliber.
Some dealer paint shops (not sure if non BMW paint shops can attend) have taken training and BMW SC schools, though I have heard mixed results in the past.
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Some dealer paint shops (not sure if non BMW paint shops can attend) have taken training and BMW SC schools, though I have heard mixed results in the past.
I am talking to insurance today and will see what they say. Even though I am new with this company my family has used them for 45 years. They should understand my situation and let me get a new bumper painted by iND. I am talking to Ryan at iND later today to see if he can guarantee a closer match. Someone told me they use paint mixed by BMW themselves, so that is why I hope they are the solution. If my insurance company makes me resend this bumper down and send it out that will be an absolute pain. Is it bad to keep sanding down the same bumper over and over? I am going to ask for a new one regardless.
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Some dealer paint shops (not sure if non BMW paint shops can attend) have taken training and BMW SC schools, though I have heard mixed results in the past.
I am talking to insurance today and will see what they say. Even though I am new with this company my family has used them for 45 years. They should understand my situation and let me get a new bumper painted by iND. I am talking to Ryan at iND later today to see if he can guarantee a closer match. Someone told me they use paint mixed by BMW themselves, so that is why I hope they are the solution. If my insurance company makes me resend this bumper down and send it out that will be an absolute pain. Is it bad to keep sanding down the same bumper over and over? I am going to ask for a new one regardless.
It's one thing to see a mid-match in a reflector insert and a bumper.

I really wish the hood did not have those small vertical spot above the headlights.
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It's one thing to see a mid-match in a reflector insert and a bumper.
Hmm, what do you mean? That a painted iND bumper may not be as close of a match as it appears to be with the inserts?
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It's one thing to see a mid-match in a reflector insert and a bumper.
Hmm, what do you mean? That a painted iND bumper may not be as close of a match as it appears to be with the inserts?
First I feel your pain!

I mean that even if you get a BMW bumper painted in the same factory paint shop with the same paint lot (which BTW is long gone) you will still see A difference.

Not saying to accept what you currently have but you need to reset your expectations b/c you're in hypercritical mode right now. And like I said I get it.
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Do this...

Go to a new car lot. Looks at brand new cars with the scrutiny that you are looking at your car today and you will see the plastic/metal thing and say to yourself WTF why can't a even a new car match...that is your baseline and the best you can expect.
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It looks fine to me.

Plastic bumper and the metal body panels will ever look 100% the same to each other! Even on a new car.

It accept the car and move on.
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Looks fine to me

Nothing against IND they do fantastic work, but I would temper your expectations for a perfect match from them (or anyone). As has been stated it is nearly impossible to get a perfect match without blending the surrounding areas. I would also be shocked if your insurance covered that sort of outsourcing (shipping costs, etc).

The ship has sailed on your car being 100% perfect matching paint. Now you won't feel so bad when you scrape the underside going up a steep driveway, or a rock penetrates the xpel, or you spin into the grass at a track day. Its just a car - enjoy it!
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It looks fine to me.

Plastic bumper and the metal body panels will ever look 100% the same to each other! Even on a new car.

It accept the car and move on.
It's though accept the car when it looks worse than before the accident. I understand it looks different even on new cars, but this is more off than that, and it can be better and should be. It is no doubt a tough call but I do not want to make a decision that I will later regret, and right now I want it to be better.
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